Well I started the thread at $3.99 a gallon and here we sit on the verge of $5.00 in the mid-west, only months later. whats next.....$10.00? After reading all the ideas and opinions, it would seem the secret is being well kept from us and we are likely to never really know why.
Just paid $4.029 in Loveland, CO. That included the three cent grocery card discount. Looking back since I've kept track: April 2007 I paid $2.929/gal. It stayed under $3.00 until Nov 2007. Then stayed under $3.29 til Feb 2008. May last five fill-ups(usually every other week) were $3.299(Feb), $3.499, $3.759, $3.759, $4.029(today).
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I feel bad for complaining yesterday when I filled up at 3.439. It wasn't too long ago that it was in the 2.70-2.80 range. I think I saw on the news the other day that we have some of the cheapest gas in the nation though here in SC.
Ok all this belly aching isn't getting anyone anywhere. In all honesty it's getting a little tiring especially when the majority of people that are the most bellicose about it are saying that they have to drive their other car or whatever vehicle more or trying to sell it or whatever. Be thankful you have that luxury, myself and other people don't. Another piece of good news is that I read that they are thinking about increasing diesel engine presence(or atleast more then likely) to meet the new 31.6 mpg by 2015 so all y'all might as well pucker up.
Tex25025 ... I am one of those that has 2 vehicles .. A gas Jeep Cherokee that I payed $ 300 for and a beater ole f250 4x4 that I paid $ 600 for ... I have never paid more than $ 800 for a vehicle in my life ... Of course I have put a bit more than that in some of them over the course of their lives ... So yes ... I am gonna grizzle about the price of fuel ... Not only diesel but also gas ... And if I could afford it I would be doing veggie diesel right now ...
But for now I will use the Jeep as my daily and take the truck out once every weekend for a 60 mile romp on the beach ...
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So yes ... I am gonna grizzle about the price of fuel ... Not only diesel but also gas ... And if I could afford it I would be doing veggie
At the current rate that I use my truck and at 4.09 price tag that is right now here, I'm spending slight over 21k a year on fuel alone(most of that is in the summer as that is peak horse show season) and that is assuming that it is going to stay 4.09 for that entire year. If you approach that in fuel cost for one vehicle then ok, but I think only the long haul truckers would have me beat, not the majority of people on here.
Has anyone seen that BMW commerical saying that if everybody in the US used a diesel engine it would save like $33 billion a year or something? I saw it late lastnight but can't really remember the exact numbers.
Still 4.07 in my parts of the woods (or corn).
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Ok all this belly aching isn't getting anyone anywhere. In all honesty it's getting a little tiring especially when the majority of people that are the most bellicose about it are saying that they have to drive their other car or whatever vehicle more or trying to sell it or whatever. Be thankful you have that luxury, myself and other people don't. Another piece of good news is that I read that they are thinking about increasing diesel engine presence(or atleast more then likely) to meet the new 31.6 mpg by 2015 so all y'all might as well pucker up.
Check your facts.....F250, F350, F450....NOT Rated, so that will not APPLY
Check your facts.....F250, F350, F450....NOT Rated, so that will not APPLY
First off I wasn't talking about superduties in particular and it doesn't matter if it is attached to diesel superduties they are might try to put more diesel engine in cars and that is what is going to drive diesel fuel prices up that is what I was talking about so what you said is irrelevant and second they are actually trying to get the bigger trucks(as in the 250 and 350 and so on) attached to that and they might actually get it done with all that is going on now it is only a matter of time, it may not happen for superduties by 2015 but it will happen I can promise you that.
Has anyone seen that BMW commerical saying that if everybody in the US used a diesel engine it would save like $33 billion a year or something? I saw it late lastnight but can't really remember the exact numbers.
Still 4.07 in my parts of the woods (or corn).
Do a search for a diesel mini cooper... they have them in Europe and are currently getting around 50mpg in the city and 67mpg on the highway. I find it odd that you can't purchase that car over here in the US that has the same engine as in Europe. They have very efficient diesel power vehicles that burn clean, just what we need here in the US. Who's stopping these engines from seeing American cars/trucks? I believe that if the majority of a barrel of crude went to refining diesel the price of diesel will go down. So more diesel engines will be a good thing. What do you guy's think?
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You can thank the tree hugger for not allowing the european diesels over here they they don't meet our emisions standards. And more diesels would make the price go up more demand, well on second though suply and demand has nothing to do with it the price will do what ever the oil companies want it too.
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I believe that if the majority of a barrel of crude went to refining diesel the price of diesel will go down.
Couple of things going against you there. Majority of owners have gas engines here in the US, so unless your going to help them convert the engines over to diesel or help them buy diesel vehicles your still going to alot of people wanting to stick with gas especially due to the price difference between gas v. diesel. Another bad thing is that alot of people have negative ideas about diesel that aren't true anymore, but people still have them nonetheless, another hurtle you have to jump.
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well on second though suply and demand has nothing to do with it the price will do what ever the oil companies want it too.
Actually supple and demand has alot to do with it, prices though are not, I repeat are not, set by the oil companies, they are set by the people that trade oil futures on the stock exchange. Now could oil companies have people jacking it up at wall street, sure they can. However, you have to remember that we are in a recession and as such, people invest in commodities that do not typically lose value(oil and gold being the biggies) and everytime there is something that affects supply(nigerian attack on a pipeline, oil supply ship being fired upon) price per barrel goes up because of the threat against supply. So supply and demand does affect it and the fact that we are in a recession also affects it even more.
Then of course, there is the theory of peak oil and if that is true then something better come along to alteast buy some time, otherwise it isn't going to be pretty(just think if the middle east doesn't have the ability to legally make money and their well is bone dry) in a lot of ways.
Personally I hope for the bubble theory to be true that way something more long term can be worked out and atleast relieve some stress on oil by reducing our consumption on it. Statues Quo can no longer remain on this issue, the death knell has been sounded I am afraid as long as demand remains the same.
