One gallon of virgin oil= How much bio D

haulingboat · #1 (**permalink**) 02-25-2008, 02:19 PM

It appears as though I live in one of the least expensive areas of the country for purchasing BioD. I have been buying it for 2.90-2.99 for the last several months. Regardless, I am interested brewing my own. I'm not sure I want too/have the time too collect WVO.

Can a guy buy oil from Costco/Sams, brew BioD, and come out cheaper than Dino D in the end?

Thanks!

Phydeaux88 · #2 (**permalink**) 02-25-2008, 02:57 PM

it is pretty much a 1 to 1 ratio, a little bit less volume BD than feed stock

Flea · #3 (**permalink**) 02-25-2008, 03:10 PM

1 gal. of veggie is $5-6, so no.

haulingboat · #4 (**permalink**) 02-25-2008, 03:16 PM

It looks like WVO is the only way to make economical sense.

Flea · #5 (**permalink**) 02-25-2008, 03:31 PM

Yep. you might have to search for it, but clear veggie is out there. Just take a water bottle and dip it in. It should be clear before filtering.

billfishnut · #6 (**permalink**) 02-27-2008, 07:50 PM

If I could get bio that cheap, I'd just buy it.

lud04X · #7 (**permalink**) 03-03-2008, 02:54 AM

I looked at costco. 5 gallons of veggie oil for $6.59. So 1.38 a gallon. I think that's doable.

Phydeaux88 · #8 (**permalink**) 03-03-2008, 09:06 AM

HMMM
$1.38 per gal + $.75 per gal for conversion = $2.13 per gal final cost. With #2 at $3.50 (or higher) per gal I would buy your BD with a 30% markup and still save tons of money.

haulingboat · #9 (**permalink**) 03-03-2008, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phydeaux88

HMMM
$1.38 per gal + $.75 per gal for conversion = $2.13 per gal final cost. With #2 at $3.50 (or higher) per gal I would buy your BD with a 30% markup and still save tons of money.

My BioD station just went to 3.10 per/gal and said it will be rising again this week.

$2.13 per gallon sounds pretty good these days. Plus no filtering old oil and disposing of the waste material.

This is doable.

tazo · #10 (**permalink**) 03-03-2008, 10:51 AM

Filled the truck up on Saturday. $4.09 gal for #2 diesel. $3.89 gal for B99.9. If it was warmer out I would fill up with Bio but, 32 deg F this morning so I better stick with mixing to B50. Fuel prices are getting out of hand. On a good note I do see less cars on the road which makes my commute a bit easier. If I had the time, space and energy I would make Bio myself. I'd rather spend my free time riding the horse.

Phydeaux88 · #11 (**permalink**) 03-03-2008, 12:03 PM

tazo
Try this:
start a batch (30 mins)
ride the horse for an hour
drain off glycerin and continue processing (30 mins)
ride the horse for an hour
drain the product to settling tank (30 mins)
ride the horse for an hour
eat lunch
take a nap with wife
ride the horse for an hour or two
eat dinner

works for me LOL

tazo · #12 (**permalink**) 03-03-2008, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phydeaux88

tazo
Try this:
start a batch (30 mins)
ride the horse for an hour
drain off glycerin and continue processing (30 mins)
ride the horse for an hour
drain the product to settling tank (30 mins)
ride the horse for an hour
eat lunch
take a nap with wife
ride the horse for an hour or two
eat dinner

works for me LOL

Thanks! I like the thought of a nap with the wife! If it is that easy to make maybe I should start.

lud04X · #13 (**permalink**) 03-03-2008, 12:39 PM

The oil I found at costco was just regular vegetable oil. So if I add a dollar per gallon to the cost of making it I'm still ahead. 2.38 a gallon sounds good...sad isn't it. Only 7 years ago it was half of that.

I may really have to consider this. Would I have to wash the BD after making it since the oil is fresh and not waste oil? That would save some time. Where's a good place to start to get some info?

jimmeste · #14 (**permalink**) 03-03-2008, 01:08 PM

Yes it must be washed.

http://www.biodieselcommunity.org/

Herkmafia · #15 (**permalink**) 03-03-2008, 01:10 PM

washing gets the left over (after settling) glycerin out

with fresh oil you would get less glycerin i think and it would take less chemicals to process