CAT why not?

Alex332 · #1 (**permalink**) 02-20-2008, 02:24 PM

Ok so I want to know/ranting
From what I have been hearing is that Ford is going to get rid of the PSD and move on to an inhouse motor, in 2010. What I want to know is why CAT or Ford hasent jumped in on the deal. I think it would be sweet to have a CAT C7 under the hood of a Super Duty. 7.2L It's a little bigger than the Cummins motor but I think it could work. Anyone else want to see a CAT in the 2010 Fords? That's just me saying I would LOVE to have a CAT in my Ford.

Cylinders	In-Line 6
Bore/Stroke	4.33 x 5.00 (110mm x 127mm)
Displacement	7.2 L (441 cu in)
Weight	1425 lb (647 kg)
Horsepower	190-300 hp @ 2500/2400 rpm
Torque	520-860 lb-ft @ 1440 rpm

Is it true that Dodge is going to drop the Cummins in 2010 for a Mercedes Diesel?
-Alex-

rbaker6336 · #2 (**permalink**) 02-20-2008, 02:52 PM

couple reasons I could think of
I don't think Cat wants to go through the EPA crap for light trucks
an inline six with ford short nose the enginewould be in the front seat
I don't think these trucks can stand another pound on the front axle

wouldn't surprise me to see mercedes engines in dodge,don't know when cummins contract runs out

Demolition · #3 (**permalink**) 02-20-2008, 03:02 PM

I would love a big yellow motor in my SD! Isn't CAT already dealing with Tier 3 issues with their ACERT tech motors?

Not sure if there is a replacement for the SD PSD. I know they are developing a 4.4 V8 for F150 but not sure if the 6.7 Scorpion is gas or diesel.

Alex332 · #4 (**permalink**) 02-20-2008, 03:07 PM

http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47059

I found this.^^^
-Alex-

That_Guy · #5 (**permalink**) 02-20-2008, 03:34 PM

I belive the Cummins contract runs out in 2012.

MisterCMK · #6 (**permalink**) 02-20-2008, 03:43 PM

I should put a CAT 3208 NA in a Super Duty.

Just kidding guys, just kidding.

randomhero1172 · #7 (**permalink**) 02-20-2008, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rbaker6336

an inline six with ford short nose the enginewould be in the front seat
I don't think these trucks can stand another pound on the front axle

I second that!! The c7 is huge compared to the PSD V8 design.

origcharger · #8 (**permalink**) 02-20-2008, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rbaker6336

I don't think Cat wants to go through the EPA crap for light trucks

Any truck the current 6.4 Powerstroke goes in is subject to the same emission standards that Caterpillar faces now for on highway engines.

BLK94F150 · #9 (**permalink**) 02-20-2008, 06:52 PM

Cat has no interist in the light truck market. Seriously, after watching what International has been through with Ford, why would they?

Mike

89stinger · #10 (**permalink**) 02-20-2008, 09:22 PM

Yeah! CAT C7 and extend the hood forward a foot!

origcharger · #11 (**permalink**) 02-20-2008, 09:37 PM

Ford has no intention of using an inline six in the Super Duty, especially one that weighs 1400 pounds.

f600nightmare · #12 (**permalink**) 02-20-2008, 09:49 PM

I was told by a cat tech that toyota was in neg with cat, 2 use a motor in their trucks but deal fell through,ne truth to that.

89stinger · #13 (**permalink**) 02-20-2008, 09:59 PM

How much does a 7.3 weigh? Or a 6.0 weigh?

MisterCMK · #14 (**permalink**) 02-20-2008, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 89stinger

How much does a 7.3 weigh? Or a 6.0 weigh?

The 7.3 is about 930lbs dry and around 960lbs wet. The 6.0 is about the same.

mrxlh · #15 (**permalink**) 02-20-2008, 10:44 PM

Well as others have said, weight and size would be the #1 reason. I know everyone here would love to see a c7 or a 3208, or a 3406, but in all seriousness, all 3 are junk compaired to a 3304 or 3306. (thinking 3304 for the 1/2 ton market) The 3300 series is also a ton easier to work on. Weight wise, and length wise the 3306 would go, however it is a tad underpowered for what everyone is wanting. It would however last for quite a few miles, and be a snap to work on.