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Old 02-16-2008, 07:51 PM
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New Tow/Payload Ratings

Any hope that the tow/payload ratings will increase? I'd like to see close to 11,000 in the Supercrew Lariat-not just the Supercab XL work truck.

Right now I'm pushing the limits of my SC Lariat with the 18" wheels for towing.

Also, with the 6 speed Auto, will the axle be a final ratio nearing 4.30 like the Tundra or anything close? No flames please but my brother in laws Crew Max Tundra is really more responsive towing my trailer in comparison to my 07 SC truck. The trailer is in the 6-8,000 lbs rating depending on the day and job and when its heavy I can really feel it. Also, I'm adding heavier equipment to my fleet and could use just a little more capacity.

If not, I'm headed into the HD range of trucks.
   
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If not, I'm headed into the HD range of trucks.
That's what you should do if you regularly tow that kind weight. Even if the 09 is rates for 11,000 pounds, I think it would shorted the life of the truck considerably. Half tons just aren't meant to tow that kind of weight.

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Tried it already. My 6.0 F250 was a horrible experience, like a lot of others.
If I have to move back into HD then it most likely would not be a Ford.
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Any brand 3/4 or 1 ton truck would be better suited towing 11,000 that any 1/2 ton...

Of course the new Superduty's have the 6.4 now, or you could go with the V-10 (If you can get by the looks that is )...

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I'm not that heavy very often and right now not ever in the 11K range obviously. Mostly in the 6-8 range a maybe of times a month with 3-5,000 more often.

I came close to pulling the trigger on a V10 before the 150. My truck is daily driver and pulls equipment, delivers materials, and hauls clients around to look at our work. The comfort level and ability to work at the same time in the 150 is ideal. I've got 25,000 miles on mine in less than 10 months so the added fuel consumption of the V10 was a big factor in going with the 150.

Right now I could not buy a 6.4 with the bitter taste of the 6.0 in my mind still.
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well they said increased payload and tow ratings across all platforms... i think the screw with the 6.5 bed will be better suited for towing
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Why even make a SuperDuty if the F150 can do the same job?
It just makes them more expensive and out of reach for the common buyer that doesn't need to tow 80,000lbs or put enough materials in the bed to build a house.
If they get the towing/payload up much more they are going to have to make the F150 a dually
These are not 1/2 ton trucks anymore.
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I'm not that heavy very often and right now not ever in the 11K range obviously. Mostly in the 6-8 range a maybe of times a month with 3-5,000 more often.

I came close to pulling the trigger on a V10 before the 150. My truck is daily driver and pulls equipment, delivers materials, and hauls clients around to look at our work. The comfort level and ability to work at the same time in the 150 is ideal. I've got 25,000 miles on mine in less than 10 months so the added fuel consumption of the V10 was a big factor in going with the 150.

Right now I could not buy a 6.4 with the bitter taste of the 6.0 in my mind still.
So maybe an F250 with the 5.4 would work for you.
I mean if the F150 with the 5.4 is powerful enough for your application, then an F250 with the 5.4 should be powerful enough for you.

Just a thought... Bruce
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An F250 Crew Cab with the current 5.4 does not perform as well as the F150 does. Obviously its the lighter truck that gives the 150 an advanatage in that category.

If the F250 could have the 6 speed auto and higher engine performance then I would be very interested.
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well it sounds to me like he should just get a toyota.
since he needs a tuck that ford cant provide.
I for one love my 150 hd. I dont care for all the crap they
are putting in the lariat or xlt. If you want a work truck, get one
if you want a show truck then get one. But if you really want a
toyota then get one.
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well it sounds to me like he should just get a toyota.
since he needs a tuck that ford cant provide.
I for one love my 150 hd. I dont care for all the crap they
are putting in the lariat or xlt. If you want a work truck, get one
if you want a show truck then get one. But if you really want a
toyota then get one.
I just checked, I never said I wanted a Tundra. I said the Tundra pulls more responsively and that I would like a little more from my F150 if possible-I guess that's what the 2009 section forum is for at this point since the vehicle is not out yet. There are a lot of other threads where people are wondering/hoping for the same in the 2009 section.

I work out of my Lariat with Leather and full four doors. Its MY work truck on jobsites and MY work truck when driving around potential clients since both are related. I never said I wanted a show truck.

I'm glad the 150HD works for you. That's great, but don't slam/flame me for not. Period.
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Wouldn't you feel much safer in a Super Duty?
Fuel mileage is going to be about the same with the V10/5.4 when loaded?
I think the requirements You listed. Qualify You as a SD owner.
I don't care what Ford says. Towing 10K+ is not a good idea with a so called 1/2 ton. The SD gets many improvements over the 150 that make it a much safer towing rig.
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I "paper" considered the SD with 5.4 previously but never drove one since some of my subs indicated that the 5.4 engine in the 250's were not great performers. I'm betting they have at most a 3.73 rear. So, earlier today I dropped over to the SD section and researched the SD 250 with 5.4.

It might work with 4.10 or even a 4.30. I'll give it some more thought.

Thanks.
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Bigger brakes, larger axles and hubs,. Might be worth looking intoa SD
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a 5.4 in a superduty comes w/ a 3.73 or 4.10. i have the 4.10 and i have no problem towing 10,000lbs. you would be amazed at the differance towing with a superduty vs a f150. unloaded the f150 is a nicer truck, but start putting the weight on and you will see that the superduty was made for it.
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