...and i still feel that a larger vehicle does NOT have to be ineffiecient. they just want us to think that. no way anyone'l convince me that a 4.0 explorer w/overdrive lock up torque converter, smaller size and aerodynamics has to be harder on gas than the old 71 f100 302/c4/4:10's that revs it's guts out at 60mph and still uses less gas during the week than the 4.0. am i the only one who's noticed this? even a '70 lincoln 460 wasn't all that bad considering. it'll be the day when the corporates would ever be honest again. at least in henry ford's day, the country wasn't so developed and rich, and everyone was looking in the same direction, kind of like the e.v world is right now. here i go again.
I've been in trouble for talking EVs on ocasion too . The 4.0 V6 is one of the worst engines for fuel efficiency, and was designed mainly for seat of the pants more than anything else (and that costs fuel). The aerostar, and tarus also used it. Whats interesting is that the late 70s pre-dates EFI in the fords. There was also the 300 inline six cylinder engine that was good for fuel economy, but could also go through hell if needed. And all on a simple open loop carb with DS2 (second generation electronic) ignition.
Its dossapointing that differential gears like 3.08s are not offered from factory amymore. My diesel got 10 MPG when I bought it, swapping out 4.10s for aftermarket 3.08s poped my average past 15MPG, and that was before adding an overdrive tranny.
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1986 F250HD Ex cab Fresh built up 6.9L diesel Lariat AC leather seats power everything w/full cluster, sterling rear 3.08LS gears, E4OD trans, ram intake ATS 088 turbo
1986 F150 Ex cab Lariat rollercam 5.0L on LPG AOD trans 3.55 gears 390 000Ks
I've been in trouble for talking EVs on ocasion too . The 4.0 V6 is one of the worst engines for fuel efficiency, and was designed mainly for seat of the pants more than anything else (and that costs fuel). The aerostar, and tarus also used it. Whats interesting is that the late 70s pre-dates EFI in the fords. There was also the 300 inline six cylinder engine that was good for fuel economy, but could also go through hell if needed. And all on a simple open loop carb with DS2 (second generation electronic) ignition.
Its dossapointing that differential gears like 3.08s are not offered from factory amymore. My diesel got 10 MPG when I bought it, swapping out 4.10s for aftermarket 3.08s poped my average past 15MPG, and that was before adding an overdrive tranny.
I had an '86 F150 w/ the inline six and 3.08s and the truck was a DOG. The 300 would been twice as capable with 3.55's and no significan tloss in mpg.
Now wait a second I see this GM is as reliable as ford not very. I work for a company that has a fleet of roughly 130 88-02 chevy 4x4 1500-3500 pick ups and maintance wise they arn't bad just usual b/s. Well being we have some of the crappiest roads nothing but huge pot holes(Michigan), and we have trucks with 200+k on ball joints, most have original engines, transmissions are about 4-5 a year. Our spray vans are all 80s 1 ton ford with the big box on back all 351W/C6 they are all on same engines/trannies odometers have been rolled over so many times its crazy and they don't just have little stuff in them 80 50lb bags of fertilizer, the spay unit that is in them is about 1500lbs, 500gal water containers they do the job everyday so if that does not prove them to be reilable I give up. Same with the lawn crew trucks they are 1ton chevys duallys with 350s pulling 32ft fully enclosed trailers again same stuff on them. Reliability can be said to suck by 100 people that believe in changing oil and doing maintance when they feel like it, "I have hmm I don't know when the last time I changed my oil was" I don't know how many times I hear that or see hmm clack clack...locked up. Routine maintance goes along ways, like ttb ball joints I have 136k on my 96 OEMs 1 has some play but when spring hits im changing them all to greasable spicer units.
Again my 2 cents.
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92 F150 4x4 stand. cab short bed 5speed 400M SEFI MA OBD-II- all in the works.
77 F150 4x4 stand. cab short bed 4speed 400 less now project aside for now body parts are $$$
i still have my 83 bronco 300-6 t18/208 w/stock axles and 35's. bigger tires don't hurt the 6 at all, if anything better cause it was really too slow w/small tires.
i know japan makes and develops most of it over there.and for china they are required to go through a much tougher schooling than americans.dascro idk how old you are but the younger generation is what i was basing that statement on.
i know japan makes and develops most of it over there.and for china they are required to go through a much tougher schooling than americans.dascro idk how old you are but the younger generation is what i was basing that statement on.
I'm 24. I am an engineer and I work with engineers that have been educated all over the world. Europe, India, Middle East, Japan, North and South America. There is no difference. There are smart people in every country and there are stupid people in every country. A smart person will not allow themselves to be held back by a lesser education system. Do not buy into the fear mongering and hype we are fed by the media. I work with engineers that have all levels of education, from PhD's to high school graduates. The most education does not directly correspond to the best ideas.
One thing that is interesting is how many of our students are choosing to go into less advanced fields. Less Doctors, scientists and engineers. I think this is more a result of our culture than education.
Americas problems are a result of poor decision making on the part of management. Intelligence and education have nothing to do with it. American companies choose to do it "good enough" while Japanese companies were slowly working towards a goal of perfection. The techincal staff of both are equally capable, its just management took it in different directions.
As for technological developments. I would say the US is right up there with Japan and anywhere else. We do not do much of the manufacturing anymore, but we certainly develop it.
I'm 24. I am an engineer and I work with engineers that have been educated all over the world. Europe, India, Middle East, Japan, North and South America. There is no difference. There are smart people in every country and there are stupid people in every country. A smart person will not allow themselves to be held back by a lesser education system. Do not buy into the fear mongering and hype we are fed by the media. I work with engineers that have all levels of education, from PhD's to high school graduates. The most education does not directly correspond to the best ideas.
One thing that is interesting is how many of our students are choosing to go into less advanced fields. Less Doctors, scientists and engineers. I think this is more a result of our culture than education.
Americas problems are a result of poor decision making on the part of management. Intelligence and education have nothing to do with it. American companies choose to do it "good enough" while Japanese companies were slowly working towards a goal of perfection. The techincal staff of both are equally capable, its just management took it in different directions.
As for technological developments. I would say the US is right up there with Japan and anywhere else. We do not do much of the manufacturing anymore, but we certainly develop it.
Well said, you are what you make of yourself.
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1986 F250HD Ex cab Fresh built up 6.9L diesel Lariat AC leather seats power everything w/full cluster, sterling rear 3.08LS gears, E4OD trans, ram intake ATS 088 turbo
1986 F150 Ex cab Lariat rollercam 5.0L on LPG AOD trans 3.55 gears 390 000Ks
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. The 4.0 V6 is one of the worst engines for fuel efficiency, and was designed mainly for seat of the pants more than anything else (and that costs fuel). The aerostar, and tarus also used it. Whats interesting is that the late 70s pre-dates EFI in the fords. There was also the 300 inline six cylinder engine that was good for fuel economy, but could also go through hell if needed. And all on a simple open loop carb with DS2 (second generation electronic) ignition.
Lariat AC leather seats power everything w/full cluster, sterling rear 3.08LS gears, E4OD trans, ram intake ATS 088 turbo
