Jet Fuel

Mr.ford · #1 (**permalink**) 02-10-2008, 07:58 PM

Hey all ,

Has anyone ever used jet fuel? if so what did you do to the fuel ? i heard something like you can add some oil and its good to go ..

George D. · #2 (**permalink**) 02-10-2008, 08:59 PM

Most air force support vehicles are ru off jet fule I think tey just dump it in but I'd add some oil if it were going in my truck.

fabmandelux · #3 (**permalink**) 02-10-2008, 09:01 PM

Jet fuel is basically Kerosene, and has 0 lubricants in it. If your going to use it you'll have to add some form of oil.

monckywrench · #4 (**permalink**) 02-10-2008, 09:58 PM

JP-8 is an authorized substitute for diesel in all USAF engines that burn diesel. It does have various additives to prevent bacterial growth, etc. It's been in use for many years.

I'd run it if I had a diesel, with some two-stroke oil for extra lubricity.

LilDuke · #5 (**permalink**) 02-11-2008, 07:31 AM

jp-1 was almost totaly kero. jp-2~jp4 was kero with naptha... I think jp-4 was half kero, half mogas. jp-8 is basically fuel oil with a bunch of additives to raise it's flash point, and prevent coke deposits. As it's used as a lube, coolant, hydraulic, and fuel. It was designed to replace having to cart around a bunch of different fuels. jp-2(fuel#2) jp-4(jet), avgas, mogas. etc.

monckywrench · #6 (**permalink**) 02-11-2008, 12:30 PM

You an Engine troop? Only those folks would tend to know the other "on engine" uses of Jet fuel.
JP-8 use took off after the Pope "Green Ramp" crash. It was decided that losing a few aircraft to inabliity to restart in the air was a better tradeoff than the high flammability of JP-4.

Herkmafia · #7 (**permalink**) 02-11-2008, 04:26 PM

used to work at an FBO that used Jet A in their john deer to cut the grass on the field

Dont know if I'd want to use it in my 6.0 though.

On a side note, you'd be suprised what you can run a turbine engine on (for a little while)

Also, Jet A is running about $4.65 to over $5.00 for aviation use.

monckywrench · #8 (**permalink**) 02-11-2008, 05:42 PM

"On a side note, you'd be suprised what you can run a turbine engine on (for a little while) "

Herk engines trim to temperature, and our AFETS rep told us they'd burn quite a variety of petroleum fuels. I'm impressed with any aircraft where you can smash the tail with an F-16 and still land!

littleme13 · #9 (**permalink**) 02-11-2008, 07:03 PM

jp-8 is safe to run in your diesels. most guys i new would only fill there tanks half way then come into work and barrow our fuel sample waste containers and fill the rest. one guy did use a 2 stroke oil just cuz he felt safer but i know a guy that rana cummins for 6 months off straight jp-8 and had no problems.

LilDuke · #10 (**permalink**) 02-11-2008, 08:21 PM

77F

jp-8 has all the lube required for diesel engines. Nothing else is needed for proper performance/longetivity.

As far as fuel reqirement for a jet engine. As long as it'll burn, but not too fast, it'll power a jet engine. I've seen em run on propane.

They work very simmilar to a diesel engine as they compress air, squirt in fuel, and ignite.

Mr.ford · #11 (**permalink**) 02-12-2008, 06:19 PM

hmm .. well not sure what kinda jet fuel i have .. just that i have about 400 liters worth. Ill have to find out let everyone know

George D. · #12 (**permalink**) 02-12-2008, 06:43 PM

I'll ask the stupid question. Where did you get jet fule? were the gaurds at the airport not watching

littleme13 · #13 (**permalink**) 02-12-2008, 09:23 PM

i used to be in the navy and worked on jets and turbo prop planes. its amazing what you can get your hands on when you knwo the right people.

zhilton · #14 (**permalink**) 02-12-2008, 10:19 PM

This whole thread reminds me of everything I've ever heard about a "Duce & a half". They'll burn anything you put in the tank. I don't know how much of that is true...but it's starting to sound like there is some truth to that statement.

fabmandelux · #15 (**permalink**) 02-13-2008, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by zhilton

This whole thread reminds me of everything I've ever heard about a "Duce & a half". They'll burn anything you put in the tank. I don't know how much of that is true...but it's starting to sound like there is some truth to that statement.

True. It's called a "multi-fuel" engine, and will run on just about any liquid that will burn. After working on them "overseas" in the "60's" all I can say is THEY ARE A PAIN IN THE *** to work on...................

This will describe it better: http://www.tpub.com/content/engine/1...s/14081_20.htm