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Old 02-13-2008, 08:36 PM
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Well its Jet type A fuel i have. I got the fuel from my work ... i'm an Aircraft Structures Technician (AME -S) building CL-415s right now just finished doing a fuel flow test after the test the aircraft gets de-fuel and back for more testing .. so all the fuel goes to whoever wants it .. so i grabbed me to barrels.
 
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Old 02-14-2008, 09:30 AM
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For Jet A you should add lubrication supplements.
A very good supplement would be Biodiesel, you need about 5% to get lubricity in the right range
 
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Old 02-16-2008, 02:53 PM
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We use all JP-8 in the Marine Corps. It has replaced the need for mogas, avgas, and all the various jet fuels and diesel fuels. What with me being a bulk fuel specialist and such, I know a little bit about fuels.
 
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Old 02-16-2008, 08:37 PM
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Im in the navy and we use JP-5 in all of our equipment with no problems.
 
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"fuel flow test after the test the aircraft gets de-fuel and back for more testing .. so all the fuel goes to whoever wants it .. so i grabbed me to barrels. "

I'd be making a fuel bowser trailer out of some used 18-wheeler saddle tanks and grabbing all I could!
 
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Old 02-24-2008, 06:35 PM
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hahaha.. .. yeah thats a great idea ! ...
 
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We've ran Jet A (my dad got a bit when we changed tanks in a truck) in our Duramax with motor oil mixed in I think, no problems.
 
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Just heard this morning that Virgen Atlantic flew a plane from NY to London on 100% Biofuel (read Bio Diesel) it went very well.
 
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"hahaha.. .. yeah thats a great idea ! ..."

Since you are a Structures kinda guy, you could actually make it look like a sexy official bowser, including a static ground line. That much fuel is a big pile of liquid MONEY.

Don't forget to get the nice stock steel saddle tank mounts. You could even trade some diesel for the parts. Check your local truck shop.
 
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I run Jet 'A' from time to time in my 99 7.3 sometimes adding some Powerservice additive and sometimes without any additive at all with no problems. Have not ever paid much attention to mileage so I cant help anyone there.
 
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Originally Posted by Phydeaux88
Just heard this morning that Virgen Atlantic flew a plane from NY to London on 100% Biofuel (read Bio Diesel) it went very well.
Isn't the atmosphere colder the higher you get? I wonder how they combated the clouding issue? I watched a series type of program on one of the Discovery channels about a group of 3 or 4 Brits going from the east coast to the west coast of the USA using only Bio-mass based fuels or electricity produced without burning dino based fuels (oil, coal...basically living off the grid) to power their adventure. They were using a F650/F750 that was running B100 (by the way) that was a large "C" class motorhRome/toy hauler. Any way, in one of the episodes I caught they were in Iowa and the host of the show went for a ride in a jet that was powered by B100; I don't remember them explaining how kept the fuel from gelling/waxing up on them. But thinking out loud...I'd assume electric fuel heaters were involved some how.
 
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I do not know how they overcame the cloud/gel point problem but obviously they did.
 
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From 1996 to 1999 I was the Chief Mate and tankerman PIC on tug and barges hauling fuel to western Alaska. We sold AVgas100, Unleaded, JetA100, JetA50, HF1, DF2, and JP5.

We sold JetA50 as HF1 and HF1 as JetA50.

Since we loaded many different products in our tanks at different time we had to take samples and do API tests to insure that the product, especially the Jet met certain criteria. We had to be careful with the Avgas and the JP5. We however were never really concerned with the DF2, we still took samples and ran the API tests but from what I remember it wasn't that critical because of the nature of the engines. It has been nearly over a decade now since I tankered, I would have to find my tankermans handbook to check the differences of the product.

One thing I do remember is that the JP5 was particlarly nasty stuff. It had a wide flammable range and low pour point. We used all our PPE when handling that stuff. We only had one custoemr for it in Barrow Alaska and they used it for the rescue helo. I was told it was the only fuel they could use in the extreme winter weather.
 
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Originally Posted by Phydeaux88
I do not know how they overcame the cloud/gel point problem but obviously they did.
Most use a heat exchanger. Fuel is heated with engine oil. The C-130 (E model) regulates oil temperature to approx. 80C or 176F so it can keep the fuel nice and toasty if needed. The bonus: Some of the excess heat in the oil is transferred to the fuel before the oil gets to the oil coolers.
 
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Originally Posted by Herkmafia
Most use a heat exchanger. Fuel is heated with engine oil. The C-130 (E model) regulates oil temperature to approx. 80C or 176F so it can keep the fuel nice and toasty if needed. The bonus: Some of the excess heat in the oil is transferred to the fuel before the oil gets to the oil coolers.
HMMMM interesting, I wonder if that would work on a truck with an automatic transmission. You cant keep ATF to cool especially when towing.
 


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