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Old 02-10-2008, 11:19 AM
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... Now if a guy were to set one up to spin up, while a mounted tire were spinning down, it would be like 1970 when I saw this done.....
I've been thinking of doing this for a while. I saved a rear axle from a parts truck I had and I have a Rigid pipe threader. I was going to chuck the axle in the threading machine and bolt the wheel to it. The threading machine will spin at a constant speed while using the grinder. I also want to try painting a white wall on the side of tire. Not that I think it's a better way to do it, I just want to see how it turns out and how it lasts.

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Looks good may have to try that for what I don't know I reckon just to say I did it You just used a grinding disc on like a 4-in angle grinder? I have not seen the you tube thing so if anyone has a link?
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Old 02-10-2008, 11:54 AM
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Bob,

I was thinking of something along the same lines.
IM putting a mounted tire on an axle and making a stand for a cutter off a lathe and will turn the tire by hand letting the cutter make a clean edge and then using a grinder or angle grinder to clean the center out.
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Old 02-10-2008, 12:17 PM
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From what I hear , the Michelins are the worst ones to do this to.
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Old 02-10-2008, 03:52 PM
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this is a simple thing that Rodgers have been doing for a while, the do look ok but I do know a few people who have done this on there rat rods and the have the side walls blow out after they have been on. They seem to think that I weekend the side walls. To each is own but all I can say is be carefully saving a couple hundred isn't worth your life. Be safe.

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I believe the only way to weaken the sidewall , is to cut into the actual belts themselves. You have to go pretty far to do that. When grinding the black to expose the white, you are taking a thickness of rubber that is about as thick as a sheet of notebook paper. The white under the black is only about 1/16" thick, so if you go deep enough to damage the integrity of the tire, you have also messed up a good white wall. But , I do understand what you are saying about safety though.It is always better to just go down and buy a set of cokers. But , again , if you are real careful , you can have a set of what I like to call a set of "Diet Cokers" . .... Ok that was a stretch, but it is a little funny.

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Bob,

I was thinking of something along the same lines.
IM putting a mounted tire on an axle and making a stand for a cutter off a lathe and will turn the tire by hand letting the cutter make a clean edge and then using a grinder or angle grinder to clean the center out.
Seen it done alot. It works well. Some guys even buy old wheel balancers with out the electronics just to use as a spinner. This allows the tire to be mounted and grinds better with air in it. Then you could use a woodcutters tool and shave it off in about 2 minutes each. You would just need a small stand to hold the tool in place just like on a shopsmith. This is how it is done way down south...WAY Way down south.......

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As a kid I remember seeing whitewall being cut in and/or widened. I used to go with my dad to the tire store and it was a fairly common practice. They would chuck up the tire on a machine and cut yuour whitewall to the width you wanted.

Great info in this thread!

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Well, I can tell you one thing. This beats the heck out of the tire paint that is being sold. In some cases I have heard it works well. But, I think most of the time folks don't know how to properly prep a tire for this type of paint. And it is just a temporary thing.
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Old 02-11-2008, 04:29 PM
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And the tire paint really was intended for painting over a whitewall to renew it, not for making a WW from a blackwall. Some guys just thought " hey, what if ?" and went for it. After sales slowed, the marking gurus tried to revive sales by pitching it as a paint to turn a BW into a WW. Seems some ate it up. Just makes a poor guy look even poorer and rather hokey IMO. But, to each their own.

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well, back in my day... if we couldn't afford white walls... you could buy 'porta walls' ...a round flat insert with the applicable white ring that mounted on the tire and was held on by the bead...

Western Auto used to sell a bunch of them... and they lasted through several tires...

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but I do remember some discussion about them not working well with radial tires... because the radials flex more in the side walls and the inserts will cut a groove in the sidewall of the tire... hardly seems plausible to me... but what I heard...

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EvK7...eature=relatedOr you could try this
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