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Old 02-09-2008, 10:20 AM
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What city are you in?
Mission Viejo.

I'm going to work on dropping the tank this morning. From what I can see it's two straps and then the plumbing.
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Old 02-09-2008, 03:53 PM
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While your at it the hole problem could be the fuel filter. as long as your keeping it under 2500 rpm for this tank full you shouldn't have to many problems, 20 mins ago i just had to replace my fuel filter. Fuel filter are 11 dollars get a new one and see if it still sputters. and maybe run a bottle of fuel injector cleaner though it. Ford says for my 03 V10 that i need to replace the fuel filter every year. so that's my guess but if you had those gauges you would be able to see what was causing the problem as it happens. And don't let this one thing get you down man.
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Old 02-09-2008, 06:29 PM
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Probably as you were typing, I was replacing the fuel filter. It only took about 5 minutes to do, so I figured I would give it a try.

While on the way home from the auto parts store I got a call from the sales guy asking me how my new truck was running. Boy did he get an earful. I managed to stay relatively cool about it and didn't use profanities. I did, however, express my extreme displeasure with the situation brought about by his forgetfulness. He acknowledged his mistake in not telling me and assured me it would be taken care of. They sent a tow truck to get my truck. When I told him that I had an RV in front of my house that I had to move to storage by tomorrow night he also offered to loan me another truck until mine is done. So far so good withe them trying to make it right. I'll keep you updated!
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Probably as you were typing, I was replacing the fuel filter. It only took about 5 minutes to do, so I figured I would give it a try.

While on the way home from the auto parts store I got a call from the sales guy asking me how my new truck was running. Boy did he get an earful. I managed to stay relatively cool about it and didn't use profanities. I did, however, express my extreme displeasure with the situation brought about by his forgetfulness. He acknowledged his mistake in not telling me and assured me it would be taken care of. They sent a tow truck to get my truck. When I told him that I had an RV in front of my house that I had to move to storage by tomorrow night he also offered to loan me another truck until mine is done. So far so good withe them trying to make it right. I'll keep you updated!
Amazing is all I can say.....besides how lucky you are with how it has worked out.
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Old 02-09-2008, 06:56 PM
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Amazing is all I can say.....besides how lucky you are with how it has worked out.
Hold that thought until I'm on the road again... I don't want to get my hopes up!
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Old 02-09-2008, 07:18 PM
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Hold that thought until I'm on the road again... I don't want to get my hopes up!
You hold that thought, you are wrong, not the salesman. Inside the fuel door it should say 91 fuel only. 87 with a light foot could have been delt with.. The octane booster made a mistake into a big problem.


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Old 02-09-2008, 09:06 PM
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You hold that thought, you are wrong, not the salesman. Inside the fuel door it should say 91 fuel only. 87 with a light foot could have been delt with.. The octane booster made a mistake into a big problem.
The octane boost wouldn't have caused that, I own a KB supercharged V10 and in the manual kenne bell recommended having a bottle of octane boost just in case you get a "bad batch" of premium and run into spark knock. The octane warning is noramaly on the on the SC. I still think the dealer is liable if they didn't tell you to put premium in it.
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Old 02-09-2008, 09:26 PM
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The octane boost wouldn't have caused that, I own a KB supercharged V10 and in the manual kenne bell recommended having a bottle of octane boost just in case you get a "bad batch" of premium and run into spark knock. The octane warning is noramaly on the on the SC. I still think the dealer is liable if they didn't tell you to put premium in it.
I'm fine with what you are saying in terms of how things work with YOUR KB SUPERCHARGED V10...

As far as my SUPERCHARGED 5.4 3V along with many other members I know, would not agree. Torco is the only exception.
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Old 02-09-2008, 11:48 PM
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You hold that thought, you are wrong, not the salesman. Inside the fuel door it should say 91 fuel only. 87 with a light foot could have been delt with.. The octane booster made a mistake into a big problem.
You've seen the fuel door on my truck? I have, and it doesn't say to use 91. It says, "Ford recommends BP products". I already looked to make sure I didn't overlook it before I called the dealer. If it was there, then I'd be the first to say I screwed up. When I called the dealer, his exact words were, "my bad, we should have told you." When I bought the truck, I knew absolutely nothing about superchargers beyond that they make more power. I would not have known without someone telling me, and if someone had told me, my limited knowledge on the subject would dicate that I heed the advice and not try to skim w/ 87 octane.

But thanks for telling me I'm wrong although I disagree. When I'm wrong, I'll admit it and pay the consequences. That's why I didn't call the dealer until I cooled off and checked out what I could.


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Old 02-10-2008, 08:18 AM
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BTW, Nice truck, did they come with the rims? Wait until you get this whole problem solved, then go to some factory parking lot after hours with your buddies and give it h***. The only problem you should run into after this is having to buy rear tires all the time.
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Old 02-10-2008, 11:04 AM
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I thought of that, except that the fuel pump is inside the tank and the hoses exit from the top of the tank.
Right, they do exit the top of the tanks, but then loop over the tank to the frame rail, to a junction fitting/check valve system, then into the fuel filter, then down the length of the frame rail to the engine compartment.

It's been this way since 1988 and the only thing that has changed is the fuel filter connectors and the method of switching tanks (newer trucks have check valves and older trucks of an electro-mechanical tank switching valve system).

Again, take the gas caps off, remove the filter, collect the gas from the line, and reinstall a new filter and refill the tanks and you're good to go. You do not need to drop either tank unless you enjoy unnecessary wrenching/punishment.

Regarding octane booster you need a heck of a lot of it to get from 87 to 91, so a few cans haven't hurt anything. I wouldn't have given the advice of octane booster for this reason but what you put in won't hurt the truck so no harm no foul.

I edited this post because I hadn't read the rest of the thread from your reply to me, so I didn't realize that your dealership/service center is taking care of this for you. Glad it worked out.

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Right, they do exit the top of the tanks, but then loop over the tank to the frame rail, to a junction fitting/check valve system, then into the fuel filter, then down the length of the frame rail to the engine compartment.

Again, take the gas caps off, remove the filter, collect the gas from the line, and reinstall a new filter and refill the tanks and you're good to go. You do not need to drop either tank unless you enjoy unnecessary wrenching/punishment.

Regarding octane booster you need a heck of a lot of it to get from 87 to 91, so a few cans haven't hurt anything. I wouldn't have given the advice of octane booster for this reason but what you put in won't hurt the truck so no harm no foul.

I edited this post because I hadn't read the rest of the thread from your reply to me, so I didn't realize that your dealership/service center is taking care of this for you. Glad it worked out.

Thanks for the advice. We were puzzled that we couldn't drain the tank by doing what you described. When un-hooked, the only way to get the gas to flow was by running the fuel pump. I wasn't excited about manually hooking up a power source to the pump for fear of burning it up, so we didnt' go that route. I did replace the fuel filter while I was under there. It was a good thing to do so I could see how simple it was for the future.

My thought, and my buddy who has a supercharged Chevy (magnacharger) thought it was odd that a quarter of a tank would run through and then start coughing and running like crap. Part of me thinks there's more to it.

There is this tidbit that got thinking about this afternoon: I put a Prodigy brake controller on the truck as well as the relay to run power to the trailer's batteries. We were wondering if hooking those up could have somehow screwed w/ the computer. First thoughts are that it couldn't, but I'm no expert on the ECUs on new trucks. Any thoughts?
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Water/alchy injection

I suggest you read up on Superchargers. You obviously like the idea of the extra power, so go to some trouble and learn how to live with the extra pressures. The supercoupe guys and the buick GN guys have been dealing with SC's for years.

I am a fan of the water/alchy injections systems. A little extra work and expense, but it will make that SC lots of fun. Go to SCCoA or TCCOA or buick GN sites for info. Also numerous sites for injection systems (snow, smc etc.)

Do you have an intercooler? You can back off the timeing (dont know how easy that is if you have a crank trigger).

If you cant/dont want to deal with it, then you may need to get rid of that truck. You can sure break one with that Supercharger! LOL
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Thanks for the advice. We were puzzled that we couldn't drain the tank by doing what you described. When un-hooked, the only way to get the gas to flow was by running the fuel pump. I wasn't excited about manually hooking up a power source to the pump for fear of burning it up, so we didnt' go that route. I did replace the fuel filter while I was under there. It was a good thing to do so I could see how simple it was for the future.
I often fill up with junkyard gas (which I filter before pumping into my truck) so I've experienced a few bad tanks of gas here and there. I replaced the rear section of fuel line between my fuel filter (hard line) to the splitter fitting, but before I installed that new line I cut out an inch and brazed in a tap valve - so at this point I don't have to remove the filter any longer - just open the valve. Overkill for your needs of course but it works for me. At least when the valve doesnt' get all rusty and uncooperative

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My thought, and my buddy who has a supercharged Chevy (magnacharger) thought it was odd that a quarter of a tank would run through and then start coughing and running like crap. Part of me thinks there's more to it.
There very well might be.

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There is this tidbit that got thinking about this afternoon: I put a Prodigy brake controller on the truck as well as the relay to run power to the trailer's batteries. We were wondering if hooking those up could have somehow screwed w/ the computer. First thoughts are that it couldn't, but I'm no expert on the ECUs on new trucks. Any thoughts?
This by itself, if installed and wired correctly, should not impact the EEC's memory nor it's ability to perform. Certainly don't discount the possibility and maybe do some double checking but it's an unlikely culprit.
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Old 02-13-2008, 12:08 PM
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