I could never run an automatic locker due to wintertime driving, although that locked up rear end will help to get you out of the ditch after it puts you in it .
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I think for most people a limited slip in a 4X4 is very good I cross mountain passes with mine in very slick conditions and I sure have had no problems going or spinning unless I want to??
will a Limited slip still be an option as well, its a simple design that hasn't failed me yet. From all my vehicles, I have found that the electronics are the first to let me down. Can't see where an electronic locker would be any different.
electric lockers are super simple...just a simple electromagnet.....the limited slips are marginal at best off road....i've got my truck almost stuck twice due to only one rear wheel spinning after the other got burried in snow...i'd buy the electric locker if it came in a high end truck...ie..platinum or lariat..
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I could never run an automatic locker due to wintertime driving, although that locked up rear end will help to get you out of the ditch after it puts you in it .
It's all in knowing how to drive I suppose. I have never had issues with the traction-lok in My Mustang or trucks in snow and such. No you can't just floor it and expect it to go straight like a 1 legger, but if you drive like you have some sense, it works much better. I bought 4 4x4 not a 1x1. Two in the rear and at least one in the front takes off in snow and such like it's on pavement. Just had about 12" of snow last weekend
electric lockers are super simple...just a simple electromagnet.....the limited slips are marginal at best off road....i've got my truck almost stuck twice due to only one rear wheel spinning after the other got burried in snow...i'd buy the electric locker if it came in a high end truck...ie..platinum or lariat..
I agree. If you do any wheeling a locker is the way to go. In soft sand by the time the limited slip stops slipping, one of your wheels is already buried. I like to know when my rear is locked and not hope its locked. But for most daily drivers that done see any dirt, a LSD will suit you fine. A lot of auto manufactures offer both LSD and rear locker options, so you can but what you want.
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I know how to drive in the winter time, been doing it for 15 years I have a feelin that we get a little more snow here in North Dakota than in Kentucky. We have ice on the roads for at least 3-4 months. There are times when slippery conditions WILL sneak up on you (black ice). I'd rather have one wheel spin than both in a situation like that!
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Frozen F-Series
1979 F250 Ranger 4x4, where to start? lots of stuff added!!!
2005 F250 Lariat FX4, SCREW, 6.0 PSD, making progress
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Originally Posted by MBBFord
Just another day in the off road forum.
..........well for those of us that are still here !!!!!
Zero reason to have one , I'd much rather run a selectable differential (either open or locked, my choice not due to wheelspeed or any other electrical nanny) than a limited slip. Especially in the winter time, an open diff is much more stable than a limited slip, and 1000x more stable than a locked diff.
Once the going gets tough, be it deep snow, mud, etc. push the button for the diff lock and prepair to be amazed. Once you get back on the pavement unlock the diff and turn with ease. Have you ever tried to turn a locked up rear end on a hard surface !
Limited slips have clutch packs to wear out, a selectable locker will wear out eventually I'm sure (haven't heard of it, but everything wears out), but you'd have to rebuild alot of LS diffs in the meantime.
A locker and a spool function EXACTLY the same when the diff is locked.
A spool is not a locker, and is not selectable. A spool is not a viable option for almost every vehicle, except for ones that take life a 1/4 of a mile at a time.
couldn't agree more... I have a spool in the mustang and an open diff in the truck... e locker would be a blessing in these trucks.
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I know how to drive in the winter time, been doing it for 15 years I have a feelin that we get a little more snow here in North Dakota than in Kentucky. We have ice on the roads for at least 3-4 months. There are times when slippery conditions WILL sneak up on you (black ice). I'd rather have one wheel spin than both in a situation like that!
I find it easier to get around with a limited slip then an open rear end in winter, only a couple times have i ever slid when not intending to. but where i live in canada we have pretty mild winters and most of our roads are melted within a week or 2 of it snowing
Could u guys tell me what u mean by a spool, and can u use a elec. locker in 4X4 hi. ??
All the trucks I have seen them in, you can only engage the rear locker in 4-low. But most of them you can modify to use in 4hi or 2 hi, thats when things get fun
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1988 Honda CRX - B18b swap, Intake, Intake Manifold, Headers, Exhaust, 8lb flywheel, and more to come.
Could u guys tell me what u mean by a spool, and can u use a elec. locker in 4X4 hi. ??
a spool is a differential that locks in the rear axles together, 100% of the time. no moving parts, no clutches, no nada, just a piece of metal holding the ring gear and having splines on each end for the axles to go into. the one in my mustang weighs about half of a limited slip and 1/3 of a locker, maybe even less.
the locker shouldn't have anything to do with what range the transfer case is in, but they probably can control that from the factory if they want via the PCM. I don't see that as being too hard of a mod to make, to take control of it whenever you want, when you want...
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2000 Excursion Limited 4x4 V10 - soon to not be stock anymore.
2004 F150 XLT screw 4x4 5.4 - 2.5 leveling kit, 34.5" BFGs - Gone
2004 mach1 mustang, holding the garage floor in place.
the locker shouldn't have anything to do with what range the transfer case is in, but they probably can control that from the factory if they want via the PCM. I don't see that as being too hard of a mod to make, to take control of it whenever you want, when you want...
chevy offers them in 2wd trucks, hopefully ford will do the same and offer it for every trim level
I find it easier to get around with a limited slip then an open rear end in winter, only a couple times have i ever slid when not intending to. but where i live in canada we have pretty mild winters and most of our roads are melted within a week or 2 of it snowing
Yeah a limited slip is managable in the winter time, way more managable than a locker.
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Frozen F-Series
1979 F250 Ranger 4x4, where to start? lots of stuff added!!!
2005 F250 Lariat FX4, SCREW, 6.0 PSD, making progress
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Originally Posted by MBBFord
Just another day in the off road forum.
..........well for those of us that are still here !!!!!
chevy offers them in 2wd trucks, hopefully ford will do the same and offer it for every trim level
Yeah toyota offers them in their prerunner TRD tacomas, and its the same locker they use in the 4x4s, but you can only use it in 4 low from the factory. I dont know why they do this, but you can get around it with a little wiring.
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1988 Honda CRX - B18b swap, Intake, Intake Manifold, Headers, Exhaust, 8lb flywheel, and more to come.
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