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Old 02-07-2008, 01:41 AM
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The first 10 were deveolped in mid to end of 98 for the motor trend shows.
"WINDSOR, ONTARIO, Jan. 14, 1999 - Assembly of the first specially-designed, 5.4-litre, Triton V-8 engines for the Ford SVT F-150 Lightning pickup began today on the low volume line (LVL) at the Windsor Engine Plant Annex.

Officials of Ford's Special Vehicle Team (SVT) and Roush Engineering, which designed the supercharged and intercooled engine for the performance truck, were at the plant as employees assembled the first 24 of a total of 24,000 engines they will build for SVT F-150 Lightning pickups during the next six years.

The specially-designed engine can produce 360 horsepower and 440 foot-pounds of torque to enable the performance Ford pickup to reach a top speed of 140 mph. The January issue of Car and Driver Magazine features a prototype of the 1999 SVT F-150 pickup on its cover and describes it as, "The World's Fastest Truck".

The new SVT Lightning Pickup will be built at the company's Ontario Truck Plant in Oakville, Ontario, beginning Windsor Engine Plant Annex houses the Low Volume Line for production of specialty engines for Lightning, Mustang and Navigator as well as machining for regular production engines in the main building. Of the 2300 Windsor Engine Plant employees, 350 are located in the Annex and 200 of them work in engine assembly.

Source: Ford Motor Company"

Those first 10 Lightnings were not production Gen 2 Lightnings intended for the general public.

Look, the point is, you were wrong in stating the Gen 2 Lightning years were '98 through '02. It was '99 through '04.

The Generation 2 Lightnings began production in 1999, and the first Gen 2 Lightning has a production date of 1999. So the excuse you used about build date doesn't fly for the Lightning.

It's no big deal to make an "oops." It becomes a big deal when a person can't admit to the "oops" even when confronted with data corroborating an "oops" was made.


If you need more proof, ask my wife! According to her, I'm frequently making an "oops!"

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Old 02-07-2008, 01:51 AM
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March 15, 1999 was the build/production date of the first Generation 2 Lightning ever built, according to Ford Motor Company's website.

"OAKVILLE, Ontario, March 15, 1999 – Ford's Ontario Truck Plant in Oakville today began production of the SVT F-150 Lightning pickup – a performance truck with a top speed of 225 kilometres per hour (140 m.p.h.). The plant, which builds regular, Ford F-Series pickups, will produce 4,000 of the performance pickups annually during the next six years.


A group of Special Vehicle Team engineers cheered as the Job One Lightning was driven off the end of the assembly line by Plant Manager Charles Shortridge, accompanied by John Teixeira, CAW Plant Chairman.

Like other SVT vehicles, Lightning will be sold exclusively through some 620 specially-trained SVT-certified dealers in the United States and Canada. The 1999 Ford SVT F-150 Lightning pickup was featured on the cover of Car and Driver Magazine in January. It was the first time anything other than a high-performance or luxury car had been selected as the magazine's cover photo."

http://media.ford.com/newsroom/release_display.cfm?release=1110

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Remind me not to make in Oops in your presence Stewart!
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My source is Ford Motor Company as I had been Ceritifed BY FORD and our training the NEW SVT FORD LIGHTING was on SEPTEMBER OF 98. Still work on and certified BY FORD MOTOR COMPANY. Do you really think ford is going to tell the public everything? I guess you didn't know that the LIGHTING is coming back in 2010 with the NEW 6.2L V8 SC
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I saw it in you post and not the one Brian did, omg gettin oldie
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There is alot that goes on behind closed doors at ford that the public is not aware of. 04 was the last year for the lighting in the uk, 02 for the US
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Old 02-07-2008, 02:17 PM
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My source is Ford Motor Company as I had been Ceritifed BY FORD and our training the NEW SVT FORD LIGHTING was on SEPTEMBER OF 98. Still work on and certified BY FORD MOTOR COMPANY.
Bro, ease up, ok? I corrected your mistake regarding the model years the Generation 2 Lightnings were MADE and AVAILABLE. Just because your source is Ford, you received your training by Ford for the Gen 2 in September of 1998, and you're still certified by Ford doesn't change the fact that you were incorrect when you posted the years the Gen 2 was available was from '98 to '02'

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Do you really think ford is going to tell the public everything?
Bro, what does THAT mean? We're talking about the years the Generation 2 Lightnings were available and made. Are you trying to say Ford is keeping that a secret from the public?????

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I guess you didn't know that the LIGHTING is coming back in 2010 with the NEW 6.2L V8 SC
The LightNing (don't forget the N bro) coming back in 2010 is not the point of contention between us. The model years the Gen 2 L's were made is what we're talking about.

That's like bringing in the model years the Gen 1 L's were made. Who cares, it has nothing to do with your incorrectly posted info.

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There is alot that goes on behind closed doors at ford that the public is not aware of. 04 was the last year for the lighting in the uk, 02 for the US
So you're telling me I all my buddy's with '03 and '04 Lightnings are really UK Lightnings that were shipped over here to the states?

Dude, put down the keyboard and step away from the computer.

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As far as the alternator goes... it is a different part for the L than a normal 5.4 F-150. I just replaced mine on Monday.
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There is alot that goes on behind closed doors at ford that the public is not aware of. 04 was the last year for the lighting in the uk, 02 for the US
WTF? That could seriously be one of the dumbest things I've ever read.
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is this a hard task to do?
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Old 08-26-2008, 09:46 PM
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"hard" depends on your ability.....

REMOVAL


Disconnect the battery ground cable.






Remove the bolt retaining the degas bottle and position the bottle aside.
Remove the supercharger drive belt.
Remove the accessory drive belt tensioner support bracket.






Remove the generator mounting bracket.
1 Loosen the lower generator brackets and remove the upper bracket bolts.
2 Disconnect the electrical connector from the generator bracket.







Remove the RH side lower bolt.






Remove the generator bracket.
1 Remove the bracket-to-engine bolt.
2 Remove the bracket-to-generator bolts.







Disconnect the generator electrical connectors.
Rotate generator to gain access and disconnect the voltage regulator connector.
Push the rubber cap onto the wire.
Remove the B+ nut and cable and remove the generator.
INSTALLATION


To install, reverse the removal procedure.
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wow might give it a try i have a radio stay on after key off problem
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Little confused....

What makes you think changing the altenator will have an effect on the radio?

Unless I missed something earlier in the thread.....

Check your altenator for output. If you have all of your original pulleys on the accessory drive, the you should read 13.6 to 14.2 Vdc at just above idle. If yes, then your alt. is good.....if not, it could simply be the regulator.

Turn the truck off, pop the hood and let it sit for 15 minutes or more....until the body control module over-rides the circuits that stay active.

Now test the voltage at the battery. It should show you 12v +/- a couple of tenths.....

If it is lower than 11-ish (11.2/11.3) then you need to test it with a hydrometer.....Advanced will go outside and do it for you for free....

As far as the radio, that is another deal. Most likely, there is an issue with a pinswitch...

Is it the stock head?
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wow might give it a try i have a radio stay on after key off problem
That has nothing to do with the alternator. The Gen 2 L's have the feature, like many, many other vehicles, that allow you to continue using the power windows and radio after the key has been turned off and removed from the ignition, for a short time, until a door is opened.

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I could see how that might apply to other vehicles. Unfortunately however, it doesn't apply to the Gen 2 Lightning.

Ford started producing the 5.4L engines for the Lightnings on January 14, 1999. The build/production date for the 30th Lightning produced was two months later, being March 16, 1999.

I don't know the build/production date for the first Lightning produced in 1999, but judging by the date of number 30, I feel safe in guessing it's probably early March or late February of 1999.

I'm not trying to a jerk. That's why in my earlier post, when I corrected the info you posted, I closed with a thumbs up smiley.

I make mistakes too bro. We're all human. I just wanted to make sure if a noob came across your post, he would have the correct info regarding the years the L was available.

As my teenage son say's, "it's all good!"

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You're right on the money Stewart!

Accordinbg to Ford, the 99 Lightning was introduced as the 99.1/2 Lightning. Meaning they didn't start production until 1999. In other words, Ford started production the same year the truck hit the showroom floor. Normally the production of most vehicles starts in the year before they are offered to the public. Like most vehicles, the development and marketing for the Lightning started much earlier. The same thing happened in 1964 when the Mustang came out. It was labled the 1964.1/2 Mustang for the same reason.

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Old 09-28-2008, 03:33 AM
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You're right on the money Stewart!

Just my 2 cents
Yeah, thanks.

I'd guess any veteran Gen 2 L owner would laugh at all that misleading, WRONG info regarding the model years the Gen 2 was made.

Only up to '02?? 2003 and 2004 only in the UK??? WTF, and this guy is a Ford tech?!?

You notice he stopped posting in this thread.

Gen 2's were made available from '98 to '02??

Unbelievable.

Even more unbelievable when he stuck to his guns when faced with irrefutable proof he was wrong.

We all make mistakes. I've made them here at FTE, NLOC, SVTP, Lightning Rodder, etc. I'm far from perfect. But dang, when corrected and offered proof, I'm not so bull-headed I continue to argue about it!

....unless it's with my wife!

LOL...just kidding.

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