First Post, NEED help already! 1995 F150 Sputtering when warm
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First Post, NEED help already! 1995 F150 Sputtering when warm
Hello everyone!
This is my first post. I just purchased a 1995 F150 with 170,000 miles on it. The engine runs great and everything seems pretty tight. It has a 5.0 with a 5-speed manual trans. 4x4 extended cab with dual tanks.
I didn't notice the problem because I didn't drive it long enough when I bought it. In fact it wasn't until a few days later until I drove it long enough to discover the problem. I don't want to bring the truck back, even if that was an issue.
Ok, now the problem: When I drive the truck and it gets warm, periodically it will start to cut out like it is running out of fuel. If I am in gear, it will just jump around like I am just learning how to drive a clutch, then recover. It will run ok for a little while longer then do it again. If I am at idle, the truck just dies. When it just starts happening, the truck will restart right away, but after a while, when it gets a bit warmer, it will die and I have to let it sit a few more minutes before it will start up again. When it is cold, it runs great. When I tried to research the problem online, I came up with a couple possible solutions. 1. Ignition Control Module. 2. Fuel Pump. Changing the fuel tanks does not help the problem whatsoever, so unless I have two fuel pumps going intermittent at the exact same time, I kinda ruled out the fuel pump. I just replaced the Ignition Control Unit, and am having the exact same problem. It did seem like when I changed the ICM that it took longer for the problem to happen, but it still does the same thing.
Anyway, before I tear the bed off and replace both fuel pumps, I am hoping someone has a possible suggestion? I just can't imagine that it is both fuel pumps.
Thanks for any help you can offer!
Dave
This is my first post. I just purchased a 1995 F150 with 170,000 miles on it. The engine runs great and everything seems pretty tight. It has a 5.0 with a 5-speed manual trans. 4x4 extended cab with dual tanks.
I didn't notice the problem because I didn't drive it long enough when I bought it. In fact it wasn't until a few days later until I drove it long enough to discover the problem. I don't want to bring the truck back, even if that was an issue.
Ok, now the problem: When I drive the truck and it gets warm, periodically it will start to cut out like it is running out of fuel. If I am in gear, it will just jump around like I am just learning how to drive a clutch, then recover. It will run ok for a little while longer then do it again. If I am at idle, the truck just dies. When it just starts happening, the truck will restart right away, but after a while, when it gets a bit warmer, it will die and I have to let it sit a few more minutes before it will start up again. When it is cold, it runs great. When I tried to research the problem online, I came up with a couple possible solutions. 1. Ignition Control Module. 2. Fuel Pump. Changing the fuel tanks does not help the problem whatsoever, so unless I have two fuel pumps going intermittent at the exact same time, I kinda ruled out the fuel pump. I just replaced the Ignition Control Unit, and am having the exact same problem. It did seem like when I changed the ICM that it took longer for the problem to happen, but it still does the same thing.
Anyway, before I tear the bed off and replace both fuel pumps, I am hoping someone has a possible suggestion? I just can't imagine that it is both fuel pumps.
Thanks for any help you can offer!
Dave
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This link will help you out if you don't have a code reader....very simple. Tell us what codes you get and someone can help you interpret them
http://www.fordfuelinjection.com/?p=13
Itch
http://www.fordfuelinjection.com/?p=13
Itch
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Originally Posted by quicklook2
i was going to suggest to get a manual because they have the code list to interpret thm after he reads them. hahaha
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Update
I ran codes myself for the KOEO setting. I got the first set of codes: 53, 95, and 29. These codes did not repeat. I then got the codes 211 and 212. After getting these codes, I tried to get them again to verify. However, when I tried to run codes again, there were none. I then decided to go to Checker (Schucks, Kragen), and use their code reader. When I ran theirs, I didn't get any codes. I then tried a KOER test, and got a 583, which doesn't even show as a KOER code. The explaination on the code reader made the guy at the counter suggest a Throttle Position Sensor, and as I recalled, the TPS came up on other codes, so I went ahead and purchased one.
As a side note, while I was driving around the block to warm the truck up for the code reader, I didn't have the truck show the problem at all... must have known I was at the parts store.
After I put the TPS in, I drove the truck for a couple days without any sign of the problem, so I thought it was fixed. As soon as I let down my guard thinking it was cured, it started doing the same thing again .
At this point, it was suggested that I try to disconnect a condensor at the coil?
I will also give the EGR vacuum line a try.
I am still hopelessly lost, and am worried that the more I drive it, the chance for me to get stranded is getting higher. I bought a manual, and have tried to look at the codes that I pulled, but am not 100% confident of those codes.
It has been also suggested that I replace the PIP sensor, and maybe the coil, I am frustrated, and have the thought that I could just replace the entire distributor, plugs, wires, and coil. However, it is a very frustrating just replacing parts, and still having the problem... so far a fuel filter, Ignition Module, and now the TPS...
Any more help is greatly appreciated!!
Thanks,
Dave
As a side note, while I was driving around the block to warm the truck up for the code reader, I didn't have the truck show the problem at all... must have known I was at the parts store.
After I put the TPS in, I drove the truck for a couple days without any sign of the problem, so I thought it was fixed. As soon as I let down my guard thinking it was cured, it started doing the same thing again .
At this point, it was suggested that I try to disconnect a condensor at the coil?
I will also give the EGR vacuum line a try.
I am still hopelessly lost, and am worried that the more I drive it, the chance for me to get stranded is getting higher. I bought a manual, and have tried to look at the codes that I pulled, but am not 100% confident of those codes.
It has been also suggested that I replace the PIP sensor, and maybe the coil, I am frustrated, and have the thought that I could just replace the entire distributor, plugs, wires, and coil. However, it is a very frustrating just replacing parts, and still having the problem... so far a fuel filter, Ignition Module, and now the TPS...
Any more help is greatly appreciated!!
Thanks,
Dave
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