Too predictable and nothing better to do with your time. I guess there is nobody to argue with on the toyota forums so you come here for your entertainment. That is very sad. Your a very sad person. My wife surfs the porn sites with me. She also thinks it is funny that you would dedicate so much time to my spelling. I mean really who acually cares that much about someone elses grammar? Did you get to read the new consumer report on your truck good pick. If you like toyota so much and dislike American products so much than why don't you move to Japan. Wait a minute the don't sell tundras in Japan do they.I guess they don't want to buy there products either. Listen I'm on a couple of other forums maybe you could start looking for my post on other forums and you could check my grammar for me. Kind of like my own secretary. I have always want one just never need one till now. I couldn't pay you much, but it seems like you would do it for free anyways. Maybe this is the reason you are hang out in this forum. The toyota guys got tired of having there own special spell check. I know there was a couple of things i messed up on in this post, so if you could just check it for that would be great. I am sure you are seating in front of your computer waiting for this post, so i won't keep you waiting any longer. Oh, thanks in advance Mr. spell check.
Its going to be real funny when ford tells the new hp and tq numbers and it blows by the 400 mark. Then all the toy owners will find somthing else that they think is better than the ford. Which there cant realy be much left because the only thing it has over the F150 is power.
Maybe bigger gas caps? I dono I'm sure they will find somthing to gloat about...
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Too predictable and nothing better to do with your time. I guess there is nobody to argue with on the toyota forums so you come here for your entertainment. That is very sad. Your a very sad person. My wife surfs the porn sites with me. She also thinks it is funny that you would dedicate so much time to my spelling. I mean really who acually cares that much about someone elses grammar? Did you get to read the new consumer report on your truck good pick. If you like toyota so much and dislike American products so much than why don't you move to Japan. Wait a minute the don't sell tundras in Japan do they.I guess they don't want to buy there products either. Listen I'm on a couple of other forums maybe you could start looking for my post on other forums and you could check my grammar for me. Kind of like my own secretary. I have always want one just never need one till now. I couldn't pay you much, but it seems like you would do it for free anyways. Maybe this is the reason you are hang out in this forum. The toyota guys got tired of having there own special spell check. I know there was a couple of things i messed up on in this post, so if you could just check it for that would be great. I am sure you are seating in front of your computer waiting for this post, so i won't keep you waiting any longer. Oh, thanks in advance Mr. spell check.
really? have you ever taken one of these cars down the drag strip? we could each post the collection of timeslips if you want...
nope, not really... only about 80 dyno pulls of my own, plus quite a few dyno days attended... how many have you actually been there for and done?
mid range is 3000-4000 or 2500-4500, since rev range is 1000-6000, take the middle 1000-2000 rpm. Again, the car makes no useable power after 6200 rpm
Here's one of my earlier dynos, stock intake'd mach:
again, please prove those facts with your own dyno sheets and timeslips.
here are my slips from 2 seasons ago:
I don't have notes written on all of em about shift points, but I can guarantee you that if I took my car out and shifted where you think it shifts best, i probably wouldn't even hit 12s. I've tried pretty much every shifting point there is out there... 6700 ain't it, trust me.
I thought you said the navigator heads are some of the worst? at low lift they flow the most of any head, save for FR500 heads; at higher lift they don't, true, but a truck head doesn't need that anyway. sounds to me like what they were meant for, trucks, they do a good job.
and I know what a flow sheet looks like, have you actually read one?
here's an example:
Funny, why is the long runner in the aviator intake just 13" long then?
yep, just what trucks need, less torque below 3000rpm and hp increase over 5000 rpm. you sir win the Darwin award.
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Have you? These cars need to be shifted well above the HP peak. I suggest you take a look at this calculator. I see you hav winPEP, take your data exports and input the values into the calculator. That calculator has been very useful for many racers. You can argue it all you want, but it's mathematically correct.
My own dyno sheet: stock runner length intake, stock cams, stock heads, stock longblock.
RWTQ peak at ~4950 rpm, RWHP peak at ~6150, plenty of useable power after 6200 rpm. What was that about a 3,300 rpm torque peak Fosters? Your graph is showing a ~4300 rpm TQ peak.
You might want to rethink your stance on the 13" runner length being the root of your high rpm power problems. Like I've already said, with the correct cams the stock 13" runner length intake will support a 6300-6400 rpm HP peak. A set of camshafts with duration in the 220 degree (@ .050") range on the intake side with a 114 LC will provide that. Once again, fact, not theory.
See the calculator.
They are the worst by far. Less flow with a larger intake port (184cc vs 177cc for Cobras vs 160cc for FR500s). Have you ever seen a Navigator intake port? Ever notice the shelf that exists around the divider?
Wow, you have a subscription to MM&FF. I'm impressed. BTW, that is not what a flow chart looks like.
They aren't. Aviator short runners are 9.25" long, long runners are well longer than 13". I just fed 15" of tape into the Aviator long runners (yes, I have one on hand) and there was still more to go.
Like most of my information, it appears to have gone totally over your head. The 99-01 cams will act like a smaller profile on a 5.4, displacement tends to have that effect. 184 degrees (@.050") is hardly enough duration for a 4.6, much less a 5.4. 4Vs respond very favorably to duration increases, .400"+ lift isn't as paramount. Being the 4V guru you seem to think you are, you should know that... right?
Where'd you go, Fosters? I was having fun kicking you around, but then you just disappeared.
who cares the ford still kicks but, to the competion, dodges cant pull ****! and got crappy suspensions...chevyys are the same.
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Lol, not for a few years now. I meant we as in anyone. Brand loyalty is fine but there gets to be a point when you have to admit maybe a competor does something better or even the fact that not all of us want to beat the crap out of our vehicles. I am glad he is here though for entertainment value Oh and BTW, I have never had any trouble pulling with my Ram and i happen to think the suspension is just fine. I would even be willing to bet that my Hemi with MDS will outpull you, outrun you, and probably get just as good fuel economy.
yea, try and pull a real heavy trailer with a dodge and those thin ass sidewall tires and see how far down the road you get....dodge is to worried about getting their chrome rims dirty to do any pulling/work!! On the job sites im on all i see are ford and chevy....very rarely a dodge and a few of the ones ive seen have been stuck because of those stupid tires they put on em!
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Did you get to read the new consumer report on your truck good pick. If you like toyota so much and dislike American products so much than why don't you move to Japan. Wait a minute the don't sell tundras in Japan do they.I guess they don't want to buy there products either. Listen I'm on a couple of other forums maybe you could start looking for my post on other forums and you could check my grammar for me. Kind of like my own secretary. I have always want one just never need one till now. I couldn't pay you much, but it seems like you would do it for free anyways. Maybe this is the reason you are hang out in this forum. The toyota guys got tired of having there own special spell check. I know there was a couple of things i messed up on in this post, so if you could just check it for that would be great. I am sure you are seating in front of your computer waiting for this post, so i won't keep you waiting any longer. Oh, thanks in advance Mr. spell check.
Like I've already said, with the correct cams the stock 13" runner length intake will support a 6300-6400 rpm HP peak. A set of camshafts with duration in the 220 degree (@ .050") range on the intake side with a 114 LC will provide that. Once again, fact, not theory. 
Oh and BTW, I have never had any trouble pulling with my Ram and i happen to think the suspension is just fine. I would even be willing to bet that my Hemi with MDS will outpull you, outrun you, and probably get just as good fuel economy.
