I prepping my old 48 for a new paint job. I have read several threads on the subject of flat or satin. I see pros a cons about both. Just trying to get an opinion from some of you guys. My original plan was flat black. Then I forgot that I am going to put my business logo on the doors ,and try to make them look old by sanding them after I airbrush them on. I have a custom painting business,that primarily is for custom bikes and parts. I use a water born airbrush paint for all of my artwork. Should I use a base coat clear coat ,then use a flattening agent in the clear? Has anyone ever done it this way? I have also heard about a John Deere paint that dries satin . But again, I am wondering how I will protect my artwork once it is done. Any ideas would sure help this ol Texas boy. Thanks in advance .
when i first got my f350 i'd turned it into a dually pickup and was gonna do flatblack on it and even after the other changes on into the half ton resurection of it . then i realized everyone is doing it and said no . i dont wanna look like everyone else . now my 53 has a natural patina to it from years of being a work truck and i have become quite fond of that .
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I understand that. I will also be using this truck for my work. But , my work is custom painting,so I wanted to show a little of what I can do on this truck. I don't want to get real wild with flames and all that crap. But I would like to add my own touch to it. The logo will be very cool ,and look like it has been on the truck since it was new. I have done this type of paint on bikes, but always shot a glossy clear over it.
well there is a guy running around here in town that has an old pickup / rod that i have yet to identify it's make , he painted his the colour of choice then put on a flat clear coat to get the aged look . at least thats what he told me !! it looks cool and no worries about the moisture seeping through the primer and eating her up .
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I'm no painter but a real good friend of mine built the rat rod that was given away for Cruising the Coast in Biloxi Mississippi. It was a flat black and it seams like he told me it was something new and it had some kind of clear over it that did not shine? If you are interested let me know and I will call him.
Yes, I am the guy in the paint business. But , I have never used a flattening agent in the clear . That ,I guess is what I was asking about. Plus that versus just a satin black paint. What works and what doesn't. If it was a bike I would shoot regular deep black ,then shoot clear with the flattening agent in it. But , this is a truck,and if it turned out looking like s##t ,that is alot of sanding to do . Just wanting to know which would be best ,I guess.
I did mine in PPG DP90 with no clear. If I was going to leave it satin black I would shoot it black and then add a flattener to the clear. I must say after a year I am getting kind of tired of the black and may shoot it a lighter color but keep it satin just to make sure some people have a twist in there shorts.
twist is right . there are some individuals on that sammich site {starts with h ends with b } that are prtty holier than though about primered rides . caught some crap for my wannabe rat truck p.o.s's from some of 'em as i dont have rides that seem to meet there expectations of what is cool . well now i think i'm gonna paint the 49 flat black the rims red , put great big chrome stacks on it , paint whitewalls on it , then letter red neck rat rod on it then send a pic to them there weisenheimers on that site .
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Hey Merc, has it done pretty well so far? I know that the flattener stays pretty close to the surface,and if you happen to scratch your vehicle,it just has to stay that way, because you can't sand and buff it out. Of course,if it is flat black,or satin black ,I guess a little scratch won't be real bad. I use mostly Auto Air paints for my artwork. It is a water born paint that works really well. I may just prime it seal it, then shoot the AA . Then shoot the clear with flattener in it. I can always do something else if I don't like it. My shop is not really big enough for a truck. But,I think I can rig up some plastic and build a hallwayto my exhaust ventilation system. My floors are sealed up good ,so there is no dirt hanging around in my shop. Thanks .
OK, well it is a two-component but as a fine finish coat it might not get any better for an economic way in to the finish you may or may not be happy with.
Hey, that is funny you mentioned that . I just bought a gallon of the Kirker on ebay. I went to their website and it seems that they make other urethanes as well. I will let you guys know how it goes on . I should have it done in a few weeks.
Flat hides a lot of problems but satin does look better to me. I have a buddy that had his knock around truck spray all over with white bed liner and I was amazed at how good it looks. He does not have to worry about taking it in the woods hunting or fishing because it won't scratch. It is a Ford by the way.
It doesn't seem to fade but the truck is parked in a garage when not in use but it seems to chip real easy. Of coarse the paint people say that it must have been the way that I sprayed it and maybe it was. I did learn one thing painting with this new paint is not what I want to do again so next time it will be done by someone else. Just need to save up some more change.
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