looking for somthing more loud. ranger

[RangerPilot]

To summarize all of that:

Don't run the tailpipe out below the cab. Trust me, as a pilot who knows the effects of carbon monoxide poisoning, you want the exhaust dump well far away from you and the air you breathe.

[whitebassbenny]

ok everybody, thanks for the advice. I have gaven it a thought and was thinking just do a straight pipe and have it come out in front of the rear wheel. but i was woundering how bad the torque lost would be. If the lost is not "worth it" then i would just did a side pipe off the muffler. I was also woundering if i was to go from the stock 2" pipe up to a 2.25" size pipe would it make it sound any different at all for a side pipe with the muffler and without? I would think it would kinda kill the back pressure w/o the muffer if i was to get a bigger pipe.

[kens64]

Originally Posted by whitebassbenny

I would think it would kinda kill the back pressure w/o the muffer if i was to get a bigger pipe.

Thats a good thing. The less backpressure the better.

[RangerPilot]

Originally Posted by whitebassbenny

...thinking just do a straight pipe and have it come out in front of the rear wheel.

Should be fine, enough pipe that you're not just chopping it, which will cause a torque loss due to backpressure loss. Been there, done that. No different than having way too big of a muffler (been there, done that too).

Originally Posted by whitebassbenny

I was also woundering if i was to go from the stock 2" pipe up to a 2.25" size pipe would it make it sound any different at all for a side pipe with the muffler and without?

Stock should be 2.25". On my '94 that was stock. If you do have 2" for whatever reason, feel free to run anything up to 2.5" single or so.

Originally Posted by kens64

Thats a good thing. The less backpressure the better.

...To a certain point. Trust me, I've been through this exhaust change with almost the same truck he has. You pull the muffler and have no tailpipe, you will lose torque.

[whitebassbenny]

how would a side pipe be for offroading ? would i have to worrie about it getting broken off on somthing or can i get a pipe that is like a "S-bend" and just clamp it where the muffler goes and have it still come out the back ?

how hard would it be to gut my old cherry bomb muffler and take everthing out of it and use it just for the offset?

[RangerPilot]

You'd have to cut the muffler in half, cut everything out of it, and weld it back together. Not too hard if you're decent at welding.

Side pipes would be okay for offroading. If you wanna run an "S" or any other shape and out the back, that's perfectly okay too. You do what you want, just keep it behind the windows of the cab. It's your truck, as long as you enjoy it, that's what matters.

[godblessmud]

If you just want to blow out the packing then install it and run it hard on some freeway trips for a week then pull it off and shove a pressure washer in it and itl blow out all the fiberglass packing. It still has the cheesgrater in it but now your at almost as good as a straight pipe, with the offset AND if you ever get pulled over for excessive noise you technically have a muffler on.

[Bear River]

I don't know why I have to repeat this. Backpressure is not a good thing and has nothing to do with torque and is not needed. What you want is velocity in the exahust system. Simply removing a muffler will not have any negative consequences, but an overly large exhaust system will. If your stock pipe is 2.00", you could up that to 2.25" without any penalty, and it will make it louder, but 2.5" is way too large and you will begin to have some torque loss.

[TallPaul]

Originally Posted by BaronVonAutomatc

Carbon dioxide will kill you just as dead as carbon monoxide.

So will any gas if it is to the exclusion of oxygen. But Carbon monoxide is especially notorious because it replaces oxygen in your blood stream and thereby blocks the passage of oxygen. Not sure if carbon dioxide works the same way. I've read that greenhouses will increase cabon dioxide levels because it increases plant growth. There is a maximum amount carbon dioxide can be increased and still be okay for people to work inside.

Can't say I have heard anyone complain that a Flowmaster 40 was not loud enough. But straight pipe sounds like the way to go. Probably that and dump just ahead of rear tire. Leave the cat alone though.

[Bear River]

Yes, carbon monoxide is not like carbon dioxide. What TallPaul said is correct, carbon dioxide can kill you if the levels get high enough, just like most other gases. Carbon dioxide is more dangerous than other inert gases. But carbon monoxide is actually a poison. It chemically reacts with the hemoglobin in your blood and turns it into something else. The result is that your blood can no longer carry oxygen. And it takes a while for your body to break it down and get rid of it. Over the course of several weeks, multiple exposures can make you sick and tired feeling.

I know this from experience. A truck I used to have had a manifold leak. The gases leaking from it have not yet passed through the cat, and contained elevated levels of carbon monoxide. At the time, my brother was driving the truck to work, and over the course of several weeks he feel victim to carbon monoxide poisoning. While he was ok in the end, he nearly fell to sleep at the wheel on multiple occasions. And get this, this was from the exposure he got on a 15 minute drive to his work. He was always reasonably alert when he left in the morning, but over the course of a couple weeks it just kind of overpowered him. After that, we got the truck fixed. I never would have though a cracked manifold could leak enough of that stuff to have such an effect on someone. A system without a cat can produce a lot more. Normally when you are driving and it is dumping it back behind the rear tire, it does not get into the cab and you are ok.

I'm just trying to emphasize that it is really dangerous stuff and unlike carbon dioxide, which takes high concentrations to harm you, carbon monoxide is actually toxic and stays in your bloodstream.