Not I you are doing it for your self and not making money with it. The minute you use it for profit or "for hire" you need a CDL.
In most states you will need to go through the weigh stations and the sign will say all truck with a GCVWR of 10,000 and above enter. And you will be subject to inspections.
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I thought there was also a clause if your are towing over 10,000 LBS a CDL is also required,unless your not for hire, in that event your still need a special endorsement here in Nevada to tow over 10,000 LBS.
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So if I'm hauling trees or anything like that over the interstate for my business, I'm required to have a CDL? What if I'm just hauling local, do I still new one?How difficult is it to get a Class A or B CDL? Sorry for all the questions. Thanks, Sam.
If your hauling to and from different states then I would heavily advise getting it A. you might be going into a state that requires it even if your state doesn't and B. it's for your business. If your hauling local you need to check your local laws at the DMV or DOT, I would imagine even the state government website would have it. Here you just have to do knowledge tests, although they highly suggest truck driving school(this was mainly focused on big rigs I think, but they lowered some of the weight limits so more and more of the light trucks have to take the exams for those that do this for a business). Here we have an exemption for farmers and nurserymen if it is within a 150 mile radius, otherwise you have to get it. There are a few other exemptions, but I think that would be the one that you might want to take a look at to see if your state has it as well.
I would get one just to be safe. Technically a picky DOT officer could make you park the trailer not having a CDL due to the fact that w/ it hook up you are over 26k. I am assuming you can take the test w/ your 450. Here in MT you can take it with any vehicle combination that exceeds 26k. I took mine in my SRW F350 pulling a tandem axle dually 30' gooseneck. The only thing you wont have is a air brake endorsement, but if you want or need that you just have to get a vehicle w/ air brakes to take an additional test. No trailer needed for that one.
If DOT officers want to they could stop every 20k gvw trailer behind a pickup and make sure they have a cdl, but the truth is they dont bother private vehicles much. It would be a little hard to call a flatbed an RV.
I know its different state to state - but whats the extent of the test? In michigan you get a chauffers (10,000 - 25,999) in the middle. talking to some cops they said its just a fundraiser and all you have to do is take the EASIEST test.
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In MT you just take a written for what ever license you want. In my case I took commercial, combination, double/triples, and air brakes. The test is easy as they have study guides available to prep for the test. Once the writtens have been past then you make an appointment for the driving test. Show up with the vehicle, make sure you have your proof of insurance. Take the test, pre trip is the easiest part to mess up on. I think my driving test lasted less than 30 minutes total IIRC. I had to schedule a second driving test for the air brake part. Some guys put a small trailer behind a dumptruck for the combo and airbrake, but trying to back up my dumptruck w/ a little trailer is a royal PITA, so I went the other way and just took 2 driving test.
I have a CDL and I am in Law Enforcement. Once you get a CDL it will be like admitting you are for hire. The the DOT man will want to see your health and physical card and long form certificate. Then are you going to register you truck commercialy? Get a base plate? How many states will you register your base plate in? Commercial insurance with a $1,000,000 minimum liability policy? Don't forget advalorum tax? I probably spelled that wrong. Fuel taxes have to be paided for each mile you run in each state to the state. You will need ICC numbers on the side of your truck
You did not say what you were hauling and why or what state you were in. That would make a difference. Mosts state have a "farm" or "not for hire" provision. I would just keep pulling the trailer. If you get pulled over most cops around here would just write you a "fix it" ticket.
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Mobil-1 5-40 turbo diesel truck oil from day #1
98 gallon transfer flow tank
Leer topper insulated
MBRP SS409 turbo back Off-Road duel exhaust-CAT IS GONE
AstroStart 2-way Auto start
Go Rhino pushbar/brushguard,4-9" Lite-Force moose lites
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I have a CDL and I am in Law Enforcement. Once you get a CDL it will be like admitting you are for hire. The the DOT man will want to see your health and physical card and long form certificate. Then are you going to register you truck commercialy? Get a base plate? How many states will you register your base plate in? Commercial insurance with a $1,000,000 minimum liability policy? Don't forget advalorum tax? I probably spelled that wrong. Fuel taxes have to be paided for each mile you run in each state to the state. You will need ICC numbers on the side of your truck
You did not say what you were hauling and why or what state you were in. That would make a difference. Mosts state have a "farm" or "not for hire" provision. I would just keep pulling the trailer. If you get pulled over most cops around here would just write you a "fix it" ticket.
not really true,I have a CDL and only means I can drive almost any commercial vehicle leagally
my truck is registered commercial only brcause of its weight
I am not required to have a health certificate or drug test because I don't haul commercially
if you are hauling commercially most states only require $300k liability unless you are hauling interstate
florida has no advalorum tax only road use tax and all truck 26000 gvw and over have to post DOT numbers that are free
I don't think florida has any farm or not for hire provisions
if you are stopped if you are stopped without proper license you will most likly be ticketed
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