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Old 01-22-2008, 08:19 AM
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Rebuilding 351 C

I am planning on rebuilding my 351C to make 275 hp. Are roller rockers going to help my power gains?
   
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First off, welcome aboard!

Secondly, tell us a little more about the motor. What vehicle was it out of, is it currently running, what other components are you putting into it....

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Old 01-22-2008, 11:40 PM
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I am planning on rebuilding my 351C to make 275 hp. Are roller rockers going to help my power gains?
what kind of power are you looking for? engines can be built for all around performance or just high end.

I run roller rockers. Honestly they dont give you much power. But I wind my motor pretty high, so theres nothing wrong with a little more valve train stability.

also how much are you willing to spend?
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Old 01-23-2008, 08:39 AM
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Just want decent bottom end power to move the truck. Money is not too much an issue. Dont want to go to a 460, or a 5.4.It is a toy more or less not a high rpm mudder
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What year is the vehicle and motor? The 351C was never offered in trucks, cars only, so unless this has been swapped in you don't have a 351C. If you did have a "C" you probably wouldn't be looking for more power, they were 400hp motors in factory trim.
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Sorry, 351M 78 Bronco, pollution motor, heavy truck.
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That's more like it. All the usual things work, upgrade the cam and exhaust and you'll pretty much have your power, though a 4bbl carb and intake will help as well. Compression on these smog motors was pretty low so if you're doing a complete rebuild try to get pistons to bump it up into the 9:1 range.
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Already swapped to Holley Pro-Jection. 21/2 inch true duals. Planning complete rebuild with shaved heads, electric fan. Did not know if roller rockers would help. Heard stock heads flow pretty good up to 5000 rpm.
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Already swapped to Holley Pro-Jection. 21/2 inch true duals. Planning complete rebuild with shaved heads, electric fan. Did not know if roller rockers would help. Heard stock heads flow pretty good up to 5000 rpm.
You can either add 1.7 rockers to get more lift out of the stock cam, or upgrade the cam. These motors have pathetic little cams, and a decent upgrade won't cost much.
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Would a RV type cam be enough for 275hp? I figure if I bring up my hp, mileage will improve, up to a point
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You can either add 1.7 rockers to get more lift out of the stock cam, or upgrade the cam. These motors have pathetic little cams, and a decent upgrade won't cost much.
Arent the 351M and 400 the same ratio as a cleveland 1.73?
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. If you did have a "C" you probably wouldn't be looking for more power, they were 400hp motors in factory trim.
NOt quite! even the 70 4brl wasnt that high. however with little mods it can be put into that range

The 335 Series consisted of versions of the 351 and 400 blocks. It lasted from 1970 to 1975.

351 Cleveland

  • canted-valve cyclinder heads.
    bore and stroke of 4.00 X 3.50.
    a light weight block to beat.
    one of the most desirable V8 engines Ford had to offer.
    a two barrel or four barrel setup.
    From 1970 to 1971 the 351 boosted between 250 to 240 horsepower.
    As time progress, the 351 Cleveland saw lessor horsepower until its' demise in 1975.
    the 351 Cleveland four barrel came with dual exhausts, a higher compressions ratio, larger intake/exhaust valves and four bolt mains during the first year of production.
    the 351 Windsor, which belongs to the 90 degree V8 family and bears no resemblance or connection to the 351 Cleveland.
    351 CJ

    Introduced in the fall of 1971
    mostly of four bolt mains, however there are some with two bolt mains.
    possessed a spread bore bolt pattern cast iron manifold
    Autolite carb 4300-D
    Horsepower varied from approximately 280 during the first year of production down to 265 by 1973.

    351 Boss

    Most desirable
    only available in the 1971 Boss 351 Mustang
    Four bolt mains
    high nodular iron crankshaft
    solid lifter camshaft with screw in studs
    adjustable rockers
    an aluminum four barrel intake

    351 HO

    In 1972, Ford rolled the 351 Boss over into the 351 High Output for the new year.
    Slighltly less desirable, the 351 High Output used the spread bore bolt pattern cast iron manifold
    Autolite 4300-D.
    With a milder camshaft, the output of the 351 HO was about 275 horsepower.

    351 M and 400

    By 1975 the 351 Modified was issued with Cleveland heads
    a two barrel carb.
    hydraulic lifters.
    a cast iron intake manifold.
    a two barrel carb.
    the 351 Modified and the 400 which was introduced since 1971, are virtually identical with very few exceptions.
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