What would you guys say about a 65 Mustang convert , restored , using parts from 12 different wrecked cars & becoming an award winning show car . Would you worry about it's damage history ?
What would you guys say about a 65 Mustang convert , restored , using parts from 12 different wrecked cars & becoming an award winning show car . Would you worry about it's damage history ?
if I didn't know who did the rebuild (restoration) I might worry...
award wining show car would depend on the criteria used for the award...
What would you guys say about a 65 Mustang convert , restored , using parts from 12 different wrecked cars & becoming an award winning show car . Would you worry about it's damage history ?
kind of an oxy-moron
it may win awards but still not worth $$it to me
__________________ 03 V10 Excursion Limited 2WD
3.73LS, 6" Fabtech Lift, 35" PC Xtreme ATs
Line X'd Brush Guard and running boards
FM Super 40 w/dual 3" pipes, RAS
11.5+ mpg in town, 13.5+ on the highway
Still miss my 96 Bronco
Caveat Emptor, Latin for “Buyer Beware”. This is a very good practice when buying anything used. Most every state will side with the seller on these issues. I used to buy cars for a dealer and got very good at hitting a damaged car. I also tried to stay away from "Fleets". Fleet cars are not bad cars and your Vehicle could have been a long term lease through a rental company. My sister had a car that was a rental car. it was bought with 43,000 on it and ran flawlessly until it was totaled at 190k miles.
Also, keep in mind there is a huge difference between Wrecked, Totaled, and just Damaged. Crawl under the truck and look at the frame, does it have any clamp marks on it? Any odd bends or marks at all? No from underneath, does the floor pan look okay? Any welding or hammer marks?
By the way, I love the term "Certified Pre-owened Car" When they first coined that phrase I was a salesman at a Honda dealer. Customers would ask "What exactly does that mean?" I would tell them that "We have certified and stand by it, all of our cars have been owned by someone else before." I also advised every one of my customers to take thier car to an outside body shop and mechanic. I never pulled tricks and never tried to hide anything. If I had to pull a trick or hide it, it was not the right car for the customer.
Maybe not to you, but anything is worth what someone will pay for it. Just because something has been damaged and repaired doesnt make it worthless. If that was the case you wouldnt take a car to a body shop if you backed into something. You would just drop it off at the junk yard and walk away because its worthless. Just because something has been repaired doesnt mean the car was in an accident that would show up on car fax. My opinion is if you are going to be so picky after the deal then why werent you so picky before the cash changed hands. JMO.
Maybe not to you, but anything is worth what someone will pay for it. Just because something has been damaged and repaired doesnt make it worthless.
very true...we all find something new with our vehicles every time we clean them, no different than after we buy them. Always justifying a purchase or ensuring we made a good decision. No probs with finding something wrong with new purchase, he was asking a question. Something is ONLY worth what others will pay, that is what makes this a great society; the gov't does not run everything.
If i bought a 65 conv, it would either be fast or #s matching, not award winning. I have won numerous awards and none of them mean $$it. I need a 65 conv like i need a couple more trailers...but I want one either orig or very fast....not one that goes to shows and receives awards.
__________________ 03 V10 Excursion Limited 2WD
3.73LS, 6" Fabtech Lift, 35" PC Xtreme ATs
Line X'd Brush Guard and running boards
FM Super 40 w/dual 3" pipes, RAS
11.5+ mpg in town, 13.5+ on the highway
Still miss my 96 Bronco
Maybe not to you, but anything is worth what someone will pay for it. Just because something has been damaged and repaired doesnt make it worthless. If that was the case you wouldnt take a car to a body shop if you backed into something. You would just drop it off at the junk yard and walk away because its worthless. Just because something has been repaired doesnt mean the car was in an accident that would show up on car fax. My opinion is if you are going to be so picky after the deal then why werent you so picky before the cash changed hands. JMO.
Take it easy buddy, don't assume that I wasn't picky about the deal before hand. I looked at several other Excursion at several other dealerships. This seemed to be the best one. Not everybody is a mechanic or close to being mechanically inclined as you may think. If I knew about the things I am seeing on the truck I wouldn't be here posting. I am here simply because I want your opinion on the things I see.
If I bought something that appeared to be a good buy only to find out that I was mislead, that is not acceptable. If I was told the truth from the get go, and still decided to buy the truck, then I have no grounds to stand on but that's not the case.
Thanks to all of you who commented on the issue at hand. I will be visiting the dealership tomorrow morning and will let you know the outcome.
Sorry, didnt mean to come off so harsh. I am just trying to say just because there has been a repair made doesnt mean it was in a wreck and it might not show up on car fax or any other background check.
On the rental issue, you also have to think what type of person would rent an excursion from a rental company. Then you have to ask if that demographic is the type to trash a vehicle. In my opinion (yes mine was a rental at one time) is that the excursion cost to much to rent for the average renter, and then they were probably rented because they someone needed it for a large famliy or such. Most people don't really want to rent an excursion and go hot rodding. Like I said, that is just my opinion. I do however know that I have over 190,000 miles on our excursion and have not had a bit of problem. I do all the required maint. when it is needed and she just keeps rolling on. I do however use Royal Purple in everything from the bottom up.
Sorry, didnt mean to come off so harsh. I am just trying to say just because there has been a repair made doesnt mean it was in a wreck and it might not show up on car fax or any other background check.
Hey it's all right. No hard feelings at all. Like I told the dealer, I love the truck, I don't want to return it, I just want honest answers from a professional (maybe a mechanic). I am hoping that they will take a look at the door and possibly offer some answers to my questions tomorrow morning.
On the rental issue, you also have to think what type of person would rent an excursion from a rental company. Then you have to ask if that demographic is the type to trash a vehicle. In my opinion (yes mine was a rental at one time) is that the excursion cost to much to rent for the average renter, and then they were probably rented because they someone needed it for a large famliy or such. Most people don't really want to rent an excursion and go hot rodding. Like I said, that is just my opinion. I do however know that I have over 190,000 miles on our excursion and have not had a bit of problem. I do all the required maint. when it is needed and she just keeps rolling on. I do however use Royal Purple in everything from the bottom up.
Thanks, Bryan
You are right about the rental, and after reading a few opinions about it, I think it's not so bad after all.
In 2004 I took delivery of a 2004 Ford Taurus (company car). I called the dealership to inquire about picking up the vehicle and they advised me it would be 3-4 days longer as it suffered drivers side door damage while in transit. So here I am with a vehilce with 8 miles on it, not even a license plate and it had been in the bodyshop but had not been in an "accident".
I worked at a detail shop while going through college. We had a heated steam pressure washer we used to clean the engine compartments. It was amazing how clean we could get them. Also "armour all" in the engine compartment makes everything shine.
Let me know what you find out.
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2005 Edduie Bauer Excursion
1955 F250 35,000 ORIGINAL miles! (My dad's High School truck).
just because carfax does not show of a vehicle ever being in an accident does not mean it never was,I'm in the autobody business and our shop in no way shape or form reports anything to carfax,so if a customer pays for repairs out of their pocket there is no report of the vehicle ever being wrecked and believe it or not we do alot of work that customers pay for out of their pockets because they don't what their ins. rates to increase.
Spinning off Rich250's comment I'm an insurance adjuster and I've processed many total losses. We do not provide any information to Carfax or any other vendors of this nature. The only reporting we do is to send a total loss report to the respective state. Some states don't have any reporting guidlines so it's possible to get around the salvage title issue. Typically a total loss on a higher end vehicle means it has suffered a lot of damage and should be easy to determine that it suffered a repair.
We never report repairs under the total loss threshold, typically 60-70% of actual cash value. On trade ins the dealer typically asks if the vehicle has suffered over $500.00 in bodywork. I doubt the get 100% honesty on this issue.
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2005 Edduie Bauer Excursion
1955 F250 35,000 ORIGINAL miles! (My dad's High School truck).
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