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I was reading one of those brochures you can get at an auto dealership the other day and it said in there that the new V10 "when properly equipped" is capable of out pulling the competitors diesel engines.
As much as I love the V10 even I am having a hard time believing this one. I mean the 6.4 (from what I have read) doesnt even out pull the Dmax or CTD. How do the guys for FoMoCo advertising justify saying such bold things in their brochures?
2012 Ford F350, 6.2, Auto, 4X4, Crew Cab, SRW, Short Box
Wasn't there a magazine not that long ago that found in some instances the V10 with 4:30 gearing would out accelerate the Duramax even with a trailer?
I can't for the life of me remember what magazine it was though.
Adrian | 2005 4x4 Diesel Courier CrewCab in Aus | 2012 4x4 CC/SB F250 6.7 in the US
2000 4x4 SC/LB F350 7.3 ZF-6 (sold)
A V10 equipped SD has a higher GVWR than the diesel does so the V10 is rated to pull a slightly heavier fiver. Not much though, only like 400-500 lbs. Obviously because the V10 weighs roughly half of what the PSD does.
The Ford Diesel out pulls CTD and DMX. easily due to ford being a tougher truck.
1999 Ford F-150 Reg Cab, 4.2L V6 8 ft Box, HD Suspension, 309,986 kms+
2002 Ford 250 SD 8' EX Cab 230,000K+ Original
1995 Diesel 7.3L PSD 747,000KMS,
1998 Ford F-150 Ex Cab XL 4.2L 3.55 460,948kms
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s youtube FordmanHaulit3002010
This tested acceleration of all the players in the 3/4 and 1 ton market. All the biggest gas engines and all diesels. The Duramax equipped GM 1 ton was pretty handily the winner over everything in the test.
Of the gas engines the 6.0L GM combined with the 6L80E 6 speed auto was fastest even loaded with a 10,500lb trailer on level ground, and was in second place in elapsed time up a 7% grade. Interestingly if the grade was longer the GM would have ended up passing the V10 equipped Ford up the grade, as the GM was gaining speed more rapidly after the initial start. The GM topped the grade with the highest speed.
If Ford could get a decent transmission behind the V10 (since nobody tests sticks anymore), they could wipe the floor with everyone else in the gas engine segment.
I agree the old school 5 speed Torqushift was holding the Ford V10 back. The less powerful GM 6.0L V8 hooked up to the 6 speed was a better all around gasser, mostly due to having one more forward gear.
On the 15% grade loaded the V10 put up a nearly identical time as the 6.4. HMMMM.... maybe the brochure wasnt BS'ing me. I love the V10.
I also noticed that and found it kind of disapoiting at least for the diesel. That said in the comparison the 6.4L was easily the weakest of the diesels and agian it was out gunned in the tranny department as it was down one gear to it's competition.
Of all the bad mouthing of the Fords that I have been driving lately, the Torqshift is always the one shining light in the dark. That has got to be the toughest auto I've ever driven and I beat the crap out of a couple of them regularly.
The V10 (properly equiped) vs the 6.4 (stock anyway) is almost a wash. Both seem to pull about the same and the 6.4 isn't putting up mileage #s much better than the V10. With gas being much cheaper than diesel, and upkeep cheaper and easier, it would be hard to justify the diesel if you didn't just want it.
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