I am willing to go for a ride to figure this out either for or against.
When Jim Carey was told his chances were 1 in a million....he said
"so your tellin me there's a chance"
There is a chance here as well.
HTR-does next weekend work for you to take me for a ride? I say early morning next Sunday.
Reply or send PM....oops...forgot you need 25 posts to be able to send PMs.
__________________ 03 V10 Excursion Limited 2WD
4.56LS, 6" Fabtech Lift, 35" PC Xtreme ATs
Line X'd Brush Guard and running boards
FM Super 40 w/dual 3" pipes, RAS
....new avg mpg coming soon....
Still miss my 96 Bronco
HTR- I am willing to go for a ride. I say we do this early next Sunday.
What works for you? I would send PM but your are not able since post count is below 25
__________________ 03 V10 Excursion Limited 2WD
4.56LS, 6" Fabtech Lift, 35" PC Xtreme ATs
Line X'd Brush Guard and running boards
FM Super 40 w/dual 3" pipes, RAS
....new avg mpg coming soon....
Still miss my 96 Bronco
__________________ 03 V10 Excursion Limited 2WD
4.56LS, 6" Fabtech Lift, 35" PC Xtreme ATs
Line X'd Brush Guard and running boards
FM Super 40 w/dual 3" pipes, RAS
....new avg mpg coming soon....
Still miss my 96 Bronco
That's fine, we can keep an open dialog. I made a post on the other thread about when would be a good time for me.
As much as I would like to do it Right Now, I'm going to be working this weekend. I have 2 clients who I couldn't get to this week and I figured I'd be working over the weekend.
I'm thinking the weekend of Sept 27 & 28th, or Oct 4 & 5th. The 4th and 5th would be best for me, that way I can plan the week prior so I don't have over flow work on the weekend.
And I know this will burn up some of the poster here, to have to wait so long... but it will be good for them.
Willson, give me a brake. I don't jump into my truck, drive almost a 1000 miles then fill up (2) 16gal tanks because I want it so bad that I pushed the truck the last 560 miles after running out of gas.....
I'm not going to tell you that there are not people who will try to say, under any circumstance that this is BS..... I mean, look at all the posts that prove that case.
What I am saying is, most of these guys didn't form the opinion based on trying the kit out. Hell, I'll be most don't have the first clue on what is involved with the installation of the HAFC.... So where did they get their informed dissapproval of the HAFC... From the first guy who simply said, nut-uh. So it all goes back to the first doubter and continues with the lemming effect.
So, let's not be lemmings. Let's take an objective look at the facts (the test ride) and move forward with real discussion. Oh, I don't think I have to tell you, youtube is not a good scientific tool. It's more political than anything. I would post my stuff on youtube, but really, I would just hear "you edited that". And I'm sure most posters on youtube do.....
It's pretty simple. This guy wants to show that high mileage using this kit is possible. Until one of you takes him up on it and rides along to see what the real story is, you should all lay off.
HTR- hook up with igotoneforya and show him how it works... dont know how you'll prove the mileage you are getting, other than an empty tank and putting 2 gallons in it and going for a 50 mile drive.
Wilson -
To prove the mileage I have developed a 32 step plan to scientificlly determin the most precise mileage of my truck.
I will pick up mr igotoneforya and we will fill the tank to the top, reset the trip odometer then we will drive 50 miles out, turn around and drive 50 miles back to the same station, pump and fuel tank.... Then we will fill the tank once again.
Now if I'm wrong the 100 mile trip will use 7.8 gal. If I'm right, when we refill the tank, it should only accept 4.3 gal. The differance will be obvious.
I guess we could drip the tank, drain it, dry it out with paper towels then reinstall the tank and put only 2 gallons in it.....
Well, I really like my way. Like the Dyno test that was also requested, the cost and time is out of my reach..... If there are no objections, I'll go with Plan A.
Sorry to dissappoint, I bought one. It really works. As a matter of fact I'm getting 28mpg on my 95 F150 5.8L. I was right there with you guys. Then I read some information about Stan Mayer who first developed the concept. That got me thinking. So now that I know it works, I'm going to continue to fine tune until I reach the 33 mpg I've see others get with the same year and model truck. Hmmmm.... I laugh at those guys filling up there tanks at 400 miles (2 @ 16 gal) and I'm filling up about every 1000 miles. I too used to get 12.8 mpg HWY and 11.6 HWY with my trailer. Couldn't afford all that jazz.
I look at it this way, I spend $600 in gas a month, if I save 1/2 the fuel (25.6 mpg) then the $1000 I spent on the kit will be paid off in 3 months or so.
And lastly, it feels so good to finally stick it to the fuel stations that stick it to us... I only wish I could make my own Gasoline.... Oh, one can dream.
On your first post, you claimed 28 mpg, but after driving with me for 100 miles, you hope to put in 4.3 gallons which is only 23 mpg. What do you get? 23 or 28? and if you keep working on it, you claimed you could get up to 33.
Although the first method of computing MPG is not the most scientific, it was my plan as well. I would not want to purposely run my truck out of gas once let alone twice. Fill it as much as we can, till gas sits in the neck and then repeat.
This is where the board can help...any better ideas as to the best method of computing MPG?...less dropping and draining a tank or running it out of fuel.
Next Sunday is the 28th. That works for me, the earlier the better. I can meet you at exit 40 (I-65) or so which should be 1/2 way between us. Say around 8-830am.
I have a kodak camera that does video. Any other ideas?
__________________ 03 V10 Excursion Limited 2WD
4.56LS, 6" Fabtech Lift, 35" PC Xtreme ATs
Line X'd Brush Guard and running boards
FM Super 40 w/dual 3" pipes, RAS
....new avg mpg coming soon....
Still miss my 96 Bronco
You need a GPS to get accurate mileage. Tire size,wear, odometer accuracy etc. can all give false readings. A good GPS is the only sure thing.
The route should be laid out ahead of time.
This is all crap to me... H2 has less energy content that petrol, how can adding a small portion of it to fuel increase mileage over 50%. It just defies the laws of thermodynamics.
your right on that, but we are no more accurate with the gas either. I do the same with my X, monitor the odometer vs mile marker to get accurate reading. At turn around point, we compare the 50 miles markers to odo and get a % accuracy. If we start on exit 40 and go to 90 and turn around, we know we roughly drove 100 miles. If the odo shows 110 we know the rough error rate.
Even 5% error on mileage and 10% error on gas at fill up (all in his favor) would still not take an average 17 mpg F150 past 20 which would still be a failure vs claimed mpg of 28-33.
This may not be the most scientific, but it should prove or disprove the benefit of the product. I do not have the end all for this but can look it over, take videos and pics and post for others to pull apart.
I just want to add facts to what we have. ANy input will be beneficial to the whole experiment. I do not have a GPS and do not plan to buy one.
Any other info/ideas?
__________________ 03 V10 Excursion Limited 2WD
4.56LS, 6" Fabtech Lift, 35" PC Xtreme ATs
Line X'd Brush Guard and running boards
FM Super 40 w/dual 3" pipes, RAS
....new avg mpg coming soon....
Still miss my 96 Bronco
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