The sticking plug issue does not exist in your 02, just the opposite they can blow out taking the threads with them, the seizing problem came into the 04-07 models and was corrected after 10/7/07.
Cool...I just found this forum after I bought my 2008. Well, unless they blow out of the head, I'm still going to leave them alone...
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Normally they were blowing around 50-60K as the pugs have only 4-5 threads if yours have not come out by now don't worry about them, plus I think they will change out pretty easy.
Normally they were blowing around 50-60K as the pugs have only 4-5 threads if yours have not come out by now don't worry about them, plus I think they will change out pretty easy.
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before you get anymore indignant, look at it from this perspective. The problem exists. Nobody denies it.
So, At 50k your truck runs fine with 0 issues. You pull the plugs "to prevent" them from sticking at 100k. And they do stick, and break. So yes, that is 100% your fault.
We all know it's likely to happen. So what is the point of risking early breakage? Right now we don't have much to work with, and likely it won't get any better. Ford can only do so much to address this issue. I wouldn't be surprised if the 09's have a different head/plug design to fix this.
So, I'll say it again. Leave your plugs alone until 100k. Mucking about with them to prevent a later breakage is pure stupidity. Take that as you will, but it is. Your playing with fire, and will get burned
Tylus I have never been accused of being indignant. In fact most folks say Im a pretty easy going guy. I guess this is what this forum is for so we can agree to disagree. nuf said
Tylus I have never been accused of being indignant. In fact most folks say Im a pretty easy going guy. I guess this is what this forum is for so we can agree to disagree. nuf said
Do you guys really think it should be the dealers/technician's resposiblity to fix a broken plug? They didn't design the engine & surely can't afford to spend many hours of additional labor to fix a Ford design screw up.
no, but alot of guys do. that's why I advocate the leave it alone approach. If you're under 100K miles...and nothing is wrong...changing the spark plugs is about as stupid as playing Russion Roullette. You know there is a bullet in there somewhere...how long until it gets you.
sorry to hear about that Matt1304. Wish it had been different.
Do you guys really think it should be the dealers/technician's resposiblity to fix a broken plug? They didn't design the engine & surely can't afford to spend many hours of additional labor to fix a Ford design screw up.
Of coarse not, but I think the customer sure as hell shouldn't have to pay for Ford's mistake or a technician that didn't follow the TSB to start with, which in turn broke unnecessary plugs.
The stealer shouldn't make the customer foot the bill. Ford should reimbursed the stealer ship for the extra labor required to do a plug change b/c of their stupid design.
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I currently have on 04 f150 fx4 supercrew with a 5.4 3v that has 73,000 miles on it. From reading what every body has said about the spark plugs it going to be a nightmare for me. I just had an electrical problem that cost me $1,200.
Should I just wait till I hit 100,000 miles or just do it know and pray nothing goes wrong.
After 60K miles, you're almost guarenteed to break plugs.
It will probably get worst by the time you hit 100K, but why risk it.
IF you do not plan on keeping the truck for over 125K miles, don't change the plugs. Save your self the head ach and cash.
I can't believe I'm even saying that, but that's how bad this problem/design is.
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77 F-100 302 C4 D44 31" M/Ts
04 F150 Lariat Screw 4x4 2"AS 32x11R17 Hankook M/Ts or 34x10.50-17 SS LTBs
I plan on keeping the truck till it dies. The way I take care of it it might not die till I hit 200,000 miles. With that said I think I'll get the plugs changed at 75,000 miles.
The whole broken spark plug problem has been solved by Lisle tools. They have a extractor set that will remove any broken plug in minutes. The tools ford came out with are crap compared to this one. Ford Triton Spark Plug Extractor - LIS65600 - LIS65600 Any tech that works on these engines should have this tool.