my 300 is getting pretty tired and i just restored the body on my pickup. i have a 351 cleveland and im looking to swap. just wondering if it will bolt up to my bell housing and how many problems i will run into. motor mounts, ect. anyone done this?
351C uses the same bell housing pattern as the 300 6. If your trans is a computer controlled automatic, you may have some problems.
Pretty sure the 351C uses the same engine mounts as the 351W so you could look for the mounts for a 5.8L truck. You will also need a way to lessen the fuel pressure to the carbed engine as the stock electric pump's pressure it too high for a carb.
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2003 F250 SD 4X4 5.4L 4:10 Arizona Beige
1987 Mustang GT
A bunch of motorcycles, other cars, and a Quad.
first this is an illegal swap, you could not sell the vehicle if that time ever came not to mention passing emissions.
can it be done sure, but honestly i suggest rebuilding the 300-6 which is an awesome motor and either finding a stang or older hotrod to put the cleveland motor into. the cleveland was never put into an american truck. its also a hi rpm motor compared to a regular 351w so your power band wont be desirable.
i am aware this is an illegal swap and also the the I6 is one of the best engines ford has, but the truck is not a daily driver. wouldn't my 93 be before the emison laws?
nope emissions laws are 25yr old vehicles. just because you have the motor doesnt make it a practicle swap. but if your set on doing it by all means do it. its your truck
This is quite an interesting topic. I've got the 300 engine in an 88 f-250 an I recently got a 351 C that will replace the 300. I already did my homework and found out many things around the topic.
Motor mounts are indeed the same ones for the 351W corresponding to the year of your truck.
I have a C6 and I know for sure that it has the same bolt pattern, and bell-housing.
It's basically a plug and play kind of swap, although I have no problems with the tranny being electronically controlled because as far as I'm concerned, an 88 C6 isn't computer controlled.
Yes I love the 300, but it's not as fast as I would like it to be, and won't ever burn tires. A more powerful permformance engine like a 351C 4V pulling our trucks won't have much of a difference regarding fuel consumption unless you go up to a 460! Yes it won't favor low end torque but in the long run it will definitely be a rewarding experience.
I have a mustang and I'm tired of people telling me to put in the mustang instead.... That's not my question!!!! I want to put it in my truck!
What else do I need to consider in order to accomplish this goal?
(emissions or engine swaps are not a legal problem in my country though)
edgexcrider I'd go for it if I were you, and if that won't be a problem in your particular situation (tranny control, emissions, etc)
Cheers
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Abel Moreno
2WD 1988 F-250 4.9
1970 Mustang Boss 302
1973 Mustang 351C 4V
This is quite an interesting topic. I've got the 300 engine in an 88 f-250 an I recently got a 351 C that will replace the 300. I already did my homework and found out many things around the topic.
Motor mounts are indeed the same ones for the 351W corresponding to the year of your truck.
I have a C6 and I know for sure that it has the same bolt pattern, and bell-housing.
It's basically a plug and play kind of swap, although I have no problems with the tranny being electronically controlled because as far as I'm concerned, an 88 C6 isn't computer controlled.
Yes I love the 300, but it's not as fast as I would like it to be, and won't ever burn tires. A more powerful permformance engine like a 351C 4V pulling our trucks won't have much of a difference regarding fuel consumption unless you go up to a 460! Yes it won't favor low end torque but in the long run it will definitely be a rewarding experience.
I have a mustang and I'm tired of people telling me to put in the mustang instead.... That's not my question!!!! I want to put it in my truck!
What else do I need to consider in order to accomplish this goal?
(emissions or engine swaps are not a legal problem in my country though)
edgexcrider I'd go for it if I were you, and if that won't be a problem in your particular situation (tranny control, emissions, etc)
Cheers
the 351c was a hi rpm motor designed for cars. in a truck it would not perform well unless it was built for such a duty. you would be best to put the cleveland on a stand and get a 351w for your truck. more aftermarket, you can keep efi and the hp/torque would be more suited for your truck. Just because you have a motor available doesnt make the swap practicle.
the 351c was a hi rpm motor designed for cars. in a truck it would not perform well unless it was built for such a duty. you would be best to put the cleveland on a stand and get a 351w for your truck. more aftermarket, you can keep efi and the hp/torque would be more suited for your truck. Just because you have a motor available doesnt make the swap practicle.
I will agree that a 351W is better for a truck, but with out after market heads and cam, it still won't be on par with a 351C imo.
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2003 F250 SD 4X4 5.4L 4:10 Arizona Beige
1987 Mustang GT
A bunch of motorcycles, other cars, and a Quad.
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