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5.4 v8 to 6.8 v10 swap? what do I need?

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5.4 v8 to 6.8 v10 swap? what do I need?

Im looking to put a v10 in my 99 f250 superduty which currently has a 5.4 v8.

will the tranny bolt up?
I can fab new motor mounts exhaust etc but Id like to know what I need other then the motor wiring harness ecu and accessories.
 
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i woould want a donervehicle.nuthing beats having all the parts frum anouthe rtruck including the radiater etc
 
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Your gonna need a transmission to, I doubt the 5.4 tranny will hold up against the V10's torque.
 
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would the 5.4 tranny bolt up?
 
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Yes, they use the same transmission.

I'm just not so sure about the electronics.
 
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seems like alot of hassle for what your getting out of it ....
 
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Yes, they use the same transmission.

I'm just not so sure about the electronics.
I thought the V10s use the torqueshift? Or is that just the PSD?
 
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99-04 gas engines use the 4r100. 05 and up use the torque shift. 03 and up 6.0l uses the torque shift. the 7.3 used the 4r100. the motor will bolt to the tranny. the motor mounts are the same. the radiator is the same. need wiring harness, ecu and engine. the 6.8 is a 5.4 in every way, with 2 cylinders add on the front. they are both modular motors, which means most of the parts will interchange.
 

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Are you going to use the 2 valve V10 or the 3 valve V10? If it were me I'd rather have the 362 HP 3 valve V10 and the TorqueShift 5 speed Transmission.
 
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for the money your are looking at spending, unless you are getting a free or otherwise really cheap V10, i would consider the diesel conversion. i am currently looking into doing just that, after my truck just up and blew a hole on side of the block. i have driven an F250 with a V8 and i trully understand your reasons for wanting to upgrade.
 
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i have a question for y'all, are the blocks the same on all pre-3 valve V10s the same or is there a difference btwn the E250, F250 and Excursion blocks?
 
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its a 2000 excursion motor so Im guessing 2 valve?

diesel conversion is going to be 10x more

if all it is is a motor swap then its no big dealfor me.

diesel swap is far more expensive initially. just the motor cost alone

then plan on new gas tanks

fuel lines

water seperator
ecu
cab wiring + motor wiring
etc
 

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Originally Posted by leerichmond
its a 2000 excursion motor so Im guessing 2 valve?

diesel conversion is going to be 10x more

if all it is is a motor swap then its no big dealfor me.

diesel swap is far more expensive initially. just the motor cost alone

then plan on new gas tanks

fuel lines

water seperator
ecu
cab wiring + motor wiring
etc
Yes it is a 2 valve V10.
 
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Just to throw some figures around. I have a 2004 F-250 and am going to swap a 12 valve cummins in this summer. I average around 11 mpg with the 5.4. If I drive 18,000 miles a year(about right for me) and average 15 mpg with the cummins, I will save nearly $900 a year in fuel, even with diesel being .50 a gallon. I figure it will pay for itself in about 3-4 years. I've been looking for a while and a decent cummins motor up here is around $2,500-3,500 plus the small stuff. The more miles I drive, the faster it will pay for itself.

In the end, the V-10 really is no cheaper since the gas mileage will still be crap.
 
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If you want to attempt a PSD conversion, AFAIK you will need a different transmission in addition to all the other supporting sysytems. It'd be a huge PITA, you'd priobably be money ahead of you just traded your truck.

A Cummins conversion is certainly a viable option. fordcummins.com and destroked.com are sources for parts and kits to make this swap.

I'm pretty sure the 2V V-10 blocks are the same. It's the stuff that gets bolted on that is different.
 


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