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How many other brands of oil are made by this company? I have heard that most brands come frome the same oil companys. I know some home heating oil delivery drivers that say when they go to the terminal to fill there oil trucks they will see gas trucks frome differant gas stations wating in line to fill up there trucks from the same pumps. I guess the same can hold true for motor oil.
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Originally Posted by scatgo
How many other brands of oil are made by this company? I have heard that most brands come frome the same oil companys. I know some home heating oil delivery drivers that say when they go to the terminal to fill there oil trucks they will see gas trucks frome differant gas stations wating in line to fill up there trucks from the same pumps. I guess the same can hold true for motor oil.
Royal Dutch Shell owns Pennzoil, Quaker State and Wolf's Head.
Chevron owns Havoline, CalTex and Gulf, but licensed or sold that brand to American Refining (Brad Penn).
British Petroleum owns Castrol.
Total owns Fina and Elf.
ConocoPhillips bought the 76 brand name and refineries, but Unocal itself went to Chevron.
I probably missed a few.
Jim
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Originally Posted by jimandmandy
Fuels are not the same story as lubricants. Gasoline and distillate fuels (diesel, heating oil and jet) interchange, lube oil formulations usually do not. The reason so few companies make so many brands are due to corporate mergers over the past 20 years or so.
Royal Dutch Shell owns Pennzoil, Quaker State and Wolf's Head.
Chevron owns Havoline, CalTex and Gulf, but licensed or sold that brand to American Refining (Brad Penn).
British Petroleum owns Castrol.
Total owns Fina and Elf.
ConocoPhillips bought the 76 brand name and refineries, but Unocal itself went to Chevron.
I probably missed a few.
Jim
Royal Dutch Shell owns Pennzoil, Quaker State and Wolf's Head.
Chevron owns Havoline, CalTex and Gulf, but licensed or sold that brand to American Refining (Brad Penn).
British Petroleum owns Castrol.
Total owns Fina and Elf.
ConocoPhillips bought the 76 brand name and refineries, but Unocal itself went to Chevron.
I probably missed a few.
Jim
Base oils are pretty much interchangable, as for the most part they are transported through product pipelines to the blending plants. Many of the smaller botique refinneries actually make the higher base oiles that wind up becomming motor oil anyway, so branding or who makes hte base stock is really irrelavant. After all how many of you have heard of Texas Refining, or Lion Oil, or Placid Refining, or Ergon, or Calumet Lubricants, ect. ect. ect. These are all refineries that refine less than 60,000 bbls per day.
You also forgot ExxonMobil which is both legacy brands of Exxon and Mobil. When it comes to true Pao synthetics, the field gets even smaller. ExxonMobil, Chevron, BP/Innovene, and Shell/Motiva.
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I thought ExxonMobil was too obvious to mention.
Yes, base oils are commodities like fuels, now that Groups I-IV are defined. Group V is "everything else", so not interchange. My comment was about finished blended lube products.
The "76" refinery in Los Angeles seemed to have a new company name on the main gate every few months for a while, Unocal, Tosco, Phillips and now Conoco.
The Chevron Texaco merger had its own unique complication, with Royal Dutch Shell and Texaco sharing refining and marketing operations in the US under the Equilon name, which had to be unwound.
Jim
Yes, base oils are commodities like fuels, now that Groups I-IV are defined. Group V is "everything else", so not interchange. My comment was about finished blended lube products.
The "76" refinery in Los Angeles seemed to have a new company name on the main gate every few months for a while, Unocal, Tosco, Phillips and now Conoco.
The Chevron Texaco merger had its own unique complication, with Royal Dutch Shell and Texaco sharing refining and marketing operations in the US under the Equilon name, which had to be unwound.
Jim
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Equilon was the easy one, as it was 50/50 shell/texaco. The one that was a bit more complicated was the Motiva deal, which most refineries that were motiva, still are. Motiva was 50% Texaco, 35% Shell, 15% Saudi Aramco. Which also included the Star Refining agreement between Saudi Aramco and Texaco when Pennzoil sued Texaco in 88 over the Getty deal.
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