It depends on how they are equipped, but an Explorer with 3.73s and the tow package topped out at about 5,500
OK, I didn't know. I had a 93 XL Explorer with the tow package. It was about 3,500#. So I wasn't buying the other guys assertion above about their capabilities. Although I have seen some pulling short RV's that are definitely over 3,500#. Thanks!
I always try to get ALL my vehicles with a manual. Less power loss, better gas mileage, less problems, and better to tow with. This does not apply to those who can not make a manual transmission do whatever they want. Those tend to be the people who want an automatic.
__________________ 1986 Ford F-150 4x4 5.0 EFI
XLT Lariat
NP435/NP208/9" 3.50 axle
Road Warrior bumper, Leaf Spring Overloads
When you look at the poll results so far, you realize that ford has considerable experience in marketing and will loose little when it comes to the lack of a manual. Auto is generally considered a luxury option anyway, so you can spin it either way when comparing base options.
But the reality is that vehicles are headed toward more sophisticated systems that make more and more decisions for the driver, so the driver doesn't have to anymore. Eliminating the manual transmission altogether is only an evolutionary next step.
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OK, I didn't know. I had a 93 XL Explorer with the tow package. It was about 3,500#. So I wasn't buying the other guys assertion above about their capabilities. Although I have seen some pulling short RV's that are definitely over 3,500#. Thanks!
Gotta have 3.73s to get the higher weight limit.
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1994 Mustang GT
1992 Explorer XLT
2000 Expedition EB
One thing that I don't think has been mentioned is that the EPA is part of what is driving the transmission choices. An auto manufacturer has more control over emissions and whatnot with the computer controlled shifts of an auto than a manual.
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Chris
1994 Mustang GT
1992 Explorer XLT
2000 Expedition EB
When you look at the poll results so far, you realize that ford has considerable experience in marketing and will loose little when it comes to the lack of a manual. Auto is generally considered a luxury option anyway, so you can spin it either way when comparing base options.
But the reality is that vehicles are headed toward more sophisticated systems that make more and more decisions for the driver, so the driver doesn't have to anymore. Eliminating the manual transmission altogether is only an evolutionary next step.
I've been around so long I remember relatives who not would buy a "dangerous" car because it had power steering and/or power brakes. They wouldn't buy a car with power windows or power locks because they might be trapped in the car and they were prone to breakage (I remember when Consumer Reports didn't recommend them). Almost everything has power steering and brakes as standard equipment now and only a few base cars don't have power windows & locks and only base or near base model trucks have manual windows and locks.
I think the elimination of manual transmissions is near.
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2004 XLT Regular Cab, Short Bed, 4X4 with 5.4 and 3.73.
Didn't have an option for me so I picked "wouldn't buy a new truck". Really though I HAVEN'T bought a new truck because I can't get a manual with the options and trim packages that I like. So, I won't be buying a new truck until I can get what I want.....which may be never.
It's all a plot to take all manual control away from the common folk so the government has full control over all of the power accessories in your car so they can open your window whenever they want to or apply your brakes if you are speeding.
I may have already posted here, but im not going back to look.
Basically i would never buy a truck UNLESS it has a manual tranny, same for cars.
I will not buy a new vehicle even if i could afford it unless it was offered with a large (351 or bigger) V8 and and a manual transmission.
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1990 F150 4X4 XLT Lariat 302 5spd
2000 Ranger 4x2 XLT 244 cid
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One thing that I don't think has been mentioned is that the EPA is part of what is driving the transmission choices. An auto manufacturer has more control over emissions and whatnot with the computer controlled shifts of an auto than a manual.
That is so true, especially if you look at the history of the Camaro/Firebird/Corvette transmissions. Six speed, but if your not under hard acceleration then you have to skip two gears and shift from 1st to 4th... DOH!
^My mom has a 2000 Pontiac Trans Am WS.6 with the 6-speed. I took the skip shift out. Although, the LS1 has the torque in her set up to skip from 1st to 4th and still pull easily.
__________________ 1986 Ford F-150 4x4 5.0 EFI
XLT Lariat
NP435/NP208/9" 3.50 axle
Road Warrior bumper, Leaf Spring Overloads
It's all a plot to take all manual control away from the common folk so the government has full control over all of the power accessories in your car so they can open your window whenever they want to or apply your brakes if you are speeding.
You think you are joking but just wait ten years. The police will take remote control of your car and drive you straight into the jail. And yes I do sleep with a tinfoil hat to prevent the government satellites from recording my dreams.
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the Goat
2008 F250 black FX4 crewcab V10
The key part is... can you afford it? If you can't then its irrelavent since Ford is selling to new truck buyers, not used truck buyers. If you can, then you are part of a very small minority of new buyers. Apparently, not many new truck buyers care about manuals, because Ford, Dodge and Chevy are all dropping them.
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Gone Fishing...
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2004 F250 King Ranch Crewcab 4x4 6.0L PSD project: DP-Tuner Tuning and MBRP Stainless Dual Exhaust.
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The key part is... can you afford it? If you can't then its irrelavent since Ford is selling to new truck buyers, not used truck buyers. If you can, then you are part of a very small minority of new buyers. Apparently, not many new truck buyers care about manuals, because Ford, Dodge and Chevy are all dropping them.
The Ford mantra under Jac Nasser was that if it wasn't wanted on some (I forget how many) certain% of the vehicles in a particular model line up they were going to drop it. If it was ordered on 96% of the vehicles, it was to be made standard on the entire line up. My guess is that the percentages may have changed. But if you have noticed the number of separate options have dropped and they have been combined with others to form packages. And option packages while fewer than before are more prevailant now than ever. And individual options, not packages are almost totally wiped out.
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