lets face the facts, a new truck would lose in so many ways when involved in a accident with a older crumple zone free ford truck, and so would the occupants at above 30 MPH.. how often do you go below 30mph? school zones and parkinglots only.. so the crumple zones are a waste of time.Ray
I worked insurance claims for over 30 years and the old trucks were far worse in accidents than the new ones and the people were hurt far worse. Today's crumple zones are stronger than the frames were on the old trucks, the cabs collapsed and killed or injured the passengers and the tops caved in onto the passengers. The Windshield and back glasses popped out of their rubber and allowed the passengers to be ejected and sharp and hard parts of the dash did great bodily injury.
the new Ford pickup has a 5 star crash rating and I would bet an old one would be very lucky to have a 2 star rating.
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i would like to see a old ford run into a new ford at 40 mph that is the normal road speed.. various accidents.. head on, tbone, side swipe, rear ended, would be interesting.. i have only seen on video on the internet of a 70's for kind of tboning a mid size car.
Ray
Ray
They crash the new fords into solid walls, I love fords as much as you but theres no way a old ford is stronger than a solid chunk of concrete.
Would you want to do that in your "old ford"? Something about the windshield popping out and me being ejected into that solid wall makes me not want to. That is if the cab didn't collapse in and crush you or trap you in there.
Would you want to do that in your "old ford"? Something about the windshield popping out and me being ejected into that solid wall makes me not want to. That is if the cab didn't collapse in and crush you or trap you in there.
solid walls arent a common accident..im talking about the real world.. not some lab.... car to car accidents..
Ray
This thread has gotten a little off topic, but it's been interesting reading. The older trucks are nice, but I wouldn't want to be in a major accident with one. Come to think of it, I wouldn't want to be in a major accident in any vehicle. That said, and with my bit of experience as a body engineer, I would trust my life in my 2006 F150 before I would in your 1975 F150 at any speed, anywhere. (And I owned a 1976 F250 for a while.) My 2006 gets better fuel economy, better ride, is quieter, more reliable, and overall more comfortable than anything I have owned previous. And I'll guarantee based on test results that it is safer. The truth is, each generation just gets better. I'm sure in some ways the 2009 will be better than my 2006.
But to some, these improvements don't matter. They are just more comfortable with old technology, and there's nothing wrong with that either. Just don't bash the improvements because you would prefer to live surrounded by yesterday's technology.
Dale
__________________ Prior trucks:
1969 Chevrolet C10 350
1976 Ford F250 360
1982 Nissan 2.2 Diesel
1986 Ford Ranger 4x4 2.3
1992 Ford F150 4x4 5.8
1997 Dodge 3500 4x4 5.9 Diesel
Current trucks:
1950 Chevolet 3800 235
1991 Ford Aeromax L-8000 7.8 Diesel
1992 Ford F150 4.9
2006 Ford F150 Lariat 4x4 5.4
This thread has gotten a little off topic, but it's been interesting reading. The older trucks are nice, but I wouldn't want to be in a major accident with one. Come to think of it, I wouldn't want to be in a major accident in any vehicle. That said, and with my bit of experience as a body engineer, I would trust my life in my 2006 F150 before I would in your 1975 F150 at any speed, anywhere. (And I owned a 1976 F250 for a while.) My 2006 gets better fuel economy, better ride, is quieter, more reliable, and overall more comfortable than anything I have owned previous. And I'll guarantee based on test results that it is safer. The truth is, each generation just gets better. I'm sure in some ways the 2009 will be better than my 2006.
But to some, these improvements don't matter. They are just more comfortable with old technology, and there's nothing wrong with that either. Just don't bash the improvements because you would prefer to live surrounded by yesterday's technology.
Dale
opinions and hearsay.. do we really need to turn this into a pissin contest?
So we have an ex- body engineer AND an ex- insurance adjuster saying that the new trucks are safer, I'd say that's convincing enough to me. Not to mention all of the evidence out there on the internet. But to paraphrase Aberdale Farm "To each his own"
So we have an ex- body engineer AND an ex- insurance adjuster saying that the new trucks are safer, I'd say that's convincing enough to me. Not to mention all of the evidence out there on the internet. But to paraphrase Aberdale Farm "To each his own"
heres something to gander at. heck i would love to see a crash test like this between old and new. gonna have to show me.. no lab is going to be able to use concrete
Yup, I saw that too. I was trying to find a similar test between a new f150 and some small car to compare but I can't find one.
But an educated guess (for lack of better term since im not that educated ), would tell me that the new truck would crumple and everybody would walk away unscratched. Where in the older truck the driver might have taken a pretty hard hit, and most likely walked or limped away with some bruises. The person in the escort probably wasn't as lucky though.
BTW, why is the list of the vehicles in your signature in white so nobody can read it?
Maybe, maybe not they don't crumple quite that badly from what I've seen. Just enough absorb the impact energy of the crash, it pretty much stops at the A pillar.
What makes you say it would absorb the energy of both cars? If anything it would absorb less since a comparable new car would have crumple zones of it's own. By your theory an old truck would also absorb the energy of both cars as well, making all that much more force go through the unproteced body of the occupant.
Safe, crumple zone truck, the front end honestly doesn't look much worse at all then the previous gen one, but notice how people in the 02 and newer don't have about having their legs severed off by chunks of the truck?
I like how on the suposedly stronger more solid truck, the frame completely bent right between the front clip and the cab, and the cab is competley destroyed
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), would tell me that the new truck would crumple and everybody would walk away unscratched. Where in the older truck the driver might have taken a pretty hard hit, and most likely walked or limped away with some bruises. The person in the escort probably wasn't as lucky though.
