I actually like the front end of the new f 150. I like how it has a flatter front end with a more square looking front end. i like the truck except for those hideous taillights. they look like titan taillights.
I don't think all trucks are getting uglier. I think they are actually looking better. I like the looks of the 09 F150 better than my 83,85 and 87 F150's.
Now if Ford could only build a decent engine and tranny combo that had some longevity to it they might have something.
The only truck getting uglier is the Tundra. That thing got beat with an ugly stick.
I don't think all trucks are getting uglier. I think they are actually looking better. I like the looks of the 09 F150 better than my 83,85 and 87 F150's.
Now if Ford could only build a decent engine and tranny combo that had some longevity to it they might have something.
The only truck getting uglier is the Tundra. That thing got beat with an ugly stick.
Perhaps the 3V Tritons with the TorqShift?????
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lets face the facts, a new truck would lose in so many ways when involved in a accident with a older crumple zone free ford truck, and so would the occupants at above 30 MPH.. how often do you go below 30mph? school zones and parkinglots only.. so the crumple zones are a waste of time.
The crumple zones are mandated by Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards. FMVSS 208 requires that during frontal impact the body structure provides a deceleration mode which absorbs and dissipates impact energy rather than transmitting the full impact force to the driver and/or occupants. The human body (essentially the brain, neck, and spine) can only take a certain G load before causing death. On 30mph impacts or less, FMVSS 208 dictates a deceleration rate that keeps the g forces to the body low enough to survive.
For a long time, FMVSS standards were only applicable to passenger cars. Trucks were exempt. With the proliferation of SUVs on truck chassis, the standards were expanded to include light trucks.
The way I understand it, even over 30 mph is is still lowers the g forces, but maybe not enough to survive. Without crumple zones, you are receiving full impact at any speed.
Yup, I looked up FMVSS 208 it says that the ocupant must surive under 30mph, but it didn't say the car will kill the passenger above that speed. Which is exactly what your saying it will do greythorn3.
I agree with Tim, I'd rather crash into something in a vehicle that has crumple zones rather than something that doesn't. Ever seen crashes of race cars before they made saftey standards (i.e crumple zones) mandaotry? In case you haven't, more often than not the driver broke his legs and often died. Today they crash and walk away, so yeah crumple zones really do kill
You've never crashed a newer car have you? They're a heck of a lot safer than you think. I do think that they are making cars to be thrown away after a crash, and I don't like that, but even though they crush, crumple and shatter into a million little pieces they're not death traps and they do protect the ocupants.
It's like Tim said, at 30MPH with out crumple zones your pretty much absorbing the amount of energy from the crash with your body. In a car with crumple zones the car abosrbes that energy. Think about coming to a dead stop from 30MPH in 0.7 seconds, it'd probably hurt. And that's basically what would happen in a bad enough crash without crumple zones to absorb that energy.
If you don't believe crumple zones work, take a look at the crash test raitings of older more rigid trucks, and newer ones. The cut off is around 2002, for when trucks actually started passing crash tests.
In both cases though, the newer AND older truck were both totalled.
i would like to see a old ford run into a new ford at 40 mph that is the normal road speed.. various accidents.. head on, tbone, side swipe, rear ended, would be interesting.. i have only seen on video on the internet of a 70's for kind of tboning a mid size car.
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