doubters of TRITON POWER
#16
The 5.4 is not a huge engine. I guess mine has the 4.10 gears or greater someone correct me please i am curious as to what I have in mine. Its a 2001 F250. I have 31" BFG Allts on it. I have to ease into my turns or it will chirp my tires every time. I think for my trucks size full CC full bed. It has a lot of Low end in it. I have some other fords like my 350 hp mustang which would retire my truck in .001 secs. I rambel.
Anyways. I am a pruduction supervisor for Jacuzzi. We use 4 to 5000lbs forklifts at our facility. When one gets stuck ,out of I would say 300 trucks we have, I get called everytime. Sometimes I just hoke my rope to the front and kinda use my weight to bounce them out in 2wd. But sometimes I get an erection when they call me and I use my 4low. It is a very sexy sight watching my sweet ride pull them out. We have a Dualy Dodge some kinda diesel and an old *** busted up Ford flat bed prob a 351 in it. And they call me. Blasa blasa blasa
FORD POWA!!!!!!!!!
Anyways. I am a pruduction supervisor for Jacuzzi. We use 4 to 5000lbs forklifts at our facility. When one gets stuck ,out of I would say 300 trucks we have, I get called everytime. Sometimes I just hoke my rope to the front and kinda use my weight to bounce them out in 2wd. But sometimes I get an erection when they call me and I use my 4low. It is a very sexy sight watching my sweet ride pull them out. We have a Dualy Dodge some kinda diesel and an old *** busted up Ford flat bed prob a 351 in it. And they call me. Blasa blasa blasa
FORD POWA!!!!!!!!!
#17
Originally Posted by jomac11
I am relatively sure that my dads 2000 2500 chevy with the 6.0L gas motor will do just fine towing your load. It obviously wont keep up with my powerstroke, but it will tow the same load.
Horsepower is a wonderful thing. My 1963 Pontiac has 376 horespower, but I sure wouldn't try towing a 12,000 pound load with it.
#18
Originally Posted by redford
It has nothing to do with "keeping up" with anything. My point was the extra weight of the Super Duty really helps keep the trailer from dragging the truck all over the road in a cross wind situation, epecially if you're not using WD hitches.
Horsepower is a wonderful thing. My 1963 Pontiac has 376 horespower, but I sure wouldn't try towing a 12,000 pound load with it.
Horsepower is a wonderful thing. My 1963 Pontiac has 376 horespower, but I sure wouldn't try towing a 12,000 pound load with it.
I'm not a ford guy, or a chevy guy, or a dodge guy, I'm a buy what works the best for what you need it for guy. I think you guys need to take off the blue oval blinders and realize that other people besides ford make good products.
#19
Originally Posted by jomac11
Where did I say anything about horsepower? Anyways, to the discussion at hand. As long as we are talking about cross winds, lets talk about the ford super duty being at least 6" (if not more) taller than a chevy. That causes a lot of extra drag.
I'm not a ford guy, or a chevy guy, or a dodge guy, I'm a buy what works the best for what you need it for guy. I think you guys need to take off the blue oval blinders and realize that other people besides ford make good products.
I'm not a ford guy, or a chevy guy, or a dodge guy, I'm a buy what works the best for what you need it for guy. I think you guys need to take off the blue oval blinders and realize that other people besides ford make good products.
I thought this was a "Ford" forum????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????? Could be the 12 pack down my throat but I'm all conreuzzled!
#20
Originally Posted by jomac11
I'm not a ford guy, or a chevy guy, or a dodge guy, I'm a buy what works the best for what you need it for guy. I think you guys need to take off the blue oval blinders and realize that other people besides ford make good products.
I'd take a dodge any given day of the week over a chevy, but as previously mentioned in a forum (maybe this one) after 36K they reduce themselves to chevy level
I guess the whole reason I started this thread was with my 5.4 I have towed anyhting I ever need and pulled many of stuck cars out of ditch... and somehow have 130K reliable miles on the clock, where as those who have tried to persuade me into a GMT-700 or 800 are all on their 2nd engine, transmission, and transfer case by 120K.
Ever tried to tow a snowmobile trailer in a GMT-800 1500 with a 5.3 and the 4L60E? that transmission was more confused than Cal Naughton Jr. in Talledega nights when he thought he had a pretzel in his head. That truck couldn't pull 2 snowmobiles worth a durn, but somehow the good ol' SD can pull a Camaro on a tandem axle trailer effortlessly. BTW BOTH of these trucks have the 3.73 rear ends
#21
Originally Posted by i eat hybrids
U are also comparing a 6.0l to a 5.4l. The 6.0l already has .6L over the 5.4 and the 6.0l has pushrods. We all kno pushrod engines make more power.
Uh...have any facts to back up that statement?
Chevy has been making pushrod engines for what, 50-some years now, I should hope they could make some decent power with them.
#22
Originally Posted by jomac11
Where did I say anything about horsepower? Anyways, to the discussion at hand. As long as we are talking about cross winds, lets talk about the ford super duty being at least 6" (if not more) taller than a chevy. That causes a lot of extra drag.
I'm not a ford guy, or a chevy guy, or a dodge guy, I'm a buy what works the best for what you need it for guy. I think you guys need to take off the blue oval blinders and realize that other people besides ford make good products.
I'm not a ford guy, or a chevy guy, or a dodge guy, I'm a buy what works the best for what you need it for guy. I think you guys need to take off the blue oval blinders and realize that other people besides ford make good products.
And I'll gladly beat the h3ll out of my bosses Dodge at work and ride around in a buddys Chevy, but I picked Ford for a reason: Because I like it. They make good stuff, but Ford makes what some of us like more. I'm sure there's a Chevy forum somewhere we're they love not having a solid front axle and that cute little bowtie that they can never take off.
#23
#24
Originally Posted by 5.4L to Freedom
The only problem I see with your logic is all the chevy's i ever owned or family has owned (coming form a GM family) DON'T work. The just break and eat up your entire budget trying to get them to drive again.
I'd take a dodge any given day of the week over a chevy, but as previously mentioned in a forum (maybe this one) after 36K they reduce themselves to chevy level
I guess the whole reason I started this thread was with my 5.4 I have towed anyhting I ever need and pulled many of stuck cars out of ditch... and somehow have 130K reliable miles on the clock, where as those who have tried to persuade me into a GMT-700 or 800 are all on their 2nd engine, transmission, and transfer case by 120K.
Ever tried to tow a snowmobile trailer in a GMT-800 1500 with a 5.3 and the 4L60E? that transmission was more confused than Cal Naughton Jr. in Talledega nights when he thought he had a pretzel in his head. That truck couldn't pull 2 snowmobiles worth a durn, but somehow the good ol' SD can pull a Camaro on a tandem axle trailer effortlessly. BTW BOTH of these trucks have the 3.73 rear ends
I'd take a dodge any given day of the week over a chevy, but as previously mentioned in a forum (maybe this one) after 36K they reduce themselves to chevy level
I guess the whole reason I started this thread was with my 5.4 I have towed anyhting I ever need and pulled many of stuck cars out of ditch... and somehow have 130K reliable miles on the clock, where as those who have tried to persuade me into a GMT-700 or 800 are all on their 2nd engine, transmission, and transfer case by 120K.
Ever tried to tow a snowmobile trailer in a GMT-800 1500 with a 5.3 and the 4L60E? that transmission was more confused than Cal Naughton Jr. in Talledega nights when he thought he had a pretzel in his head. That truck couldn't pull 2 snowmobiles worth a durn, but somehow the good ol' SD can pull a Camaro on a tandem axle trailer effortlessly. BTW BOTH of these trucks have the 3.73 rear ends
Point being, you get some good ones, you get some bad ones, but any auto will hold up just fine with proper maintenance and taking care of it. I understand that this is a ford forum, thats why I'm here, but its ok to admit that other people make good vehicles too...
#26
Traded 5th wheel this summer - latched on to a Gulfstream with a GVR of 14,500 lbs with my (then) '05 F250, 5.4 w/3.73. Sure, it struggled a little bringing it home, which is why I now have the sig truck. But, it pulled that 14K or so up several really rugged grades, the worst being 10% and 3 miles long. Yeah, I was going kinda slow, but I was pushin a tractor trailer up one of 'em.
So, yea, it's the little engine that can.
So, yea, it's the little engine that can.
#27
Originally Posted by 01F250marty
I guess mine has the 4.10 gears or greater someone correct me please i am curious as to what I have in mine.
31 - 3.73 open
C1 - 3.73LS
32 - 4.10 open
C2 - 4.10LS
Originally Posted by 5.4L to Freedom
more confused than Cal Naughton Jr. in Talledega nights when he thought he had a pretzel in his head
#28
#29
I would say that it is more an issue of gears and weight than motor. The Pickup.com article with the shoot out with the new trucks illustrated that point. The GM 6.0, though not as powerful either hp wise or torque wise, held it's own against the V10. It out muscled the V10 empty and towing 10,500 on level ground, but when it came to pulling a grade, the V10 superior torque and hp turned the table. The GM with the 6 spd auto is just a better geared, lighter truck.
#30
Originally Posted by paulm
I would say that it is more an issue of gears and weight than motor. The Pickup.com article with the shoot out with the new trucks illustrated that point. The GM 6.0, though not as powerful either hp wise or torque wise, held it's own against the V10. It out muscled the V10 empty and towing 10,500 on level ground, but when it came to pulling a grade, the V10 superior torque and hp turned the table. The GM with the 6 spd auto is just a better geared, lighter truck.
Towing on level ground doesn't mean squat, at least to me. Hills are everywhere and when pulling you need a truck to handle them hills.
Your right the Chebbys 6spd doesn't load the motor as much and provides an edge. Also Chebby usually puts smaller tires on from factory than ford does, thus changing the final drive ratio.
I still put little faith in reviews done by magazines and other outfits that do vehicle testing.
Last edited by dkf; 12-05-2007 at 11:01 AM.