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Old 11-30-2007, 02:32 AM
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I like the I6 idea. A lot of custom sheet metal work would be needed, as well as a custom tranny setup, but that sounds like an awesome idea.

On an intercooler, there is no real room for an air to air intercooler. There is nowhere under the hood to put it, and after routing the tubes to an intercooler in front of the radiator, the gains from using an intercooler would be lost in the form of lag from the excessive length and bends. But an air to water intercooler would be much easier to install, and they work better too. I just don't think there is room for an air to air, and the best location would be the front bumper, which is a long way from the ideal setup of the short run. One could run it up higher, but there would still be alot of pipe length involved.
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ahhhhhhhhh good points good points. i ask because i looked up air to water cooling intercoolers on wikipedia... said they tend to not cool down as much under constant acceleration... and hotter air can cause pinging and detonation... which is no bueno sounding to me... however, i guess as long as the air temp is reasonable (and would deff. be lower than the air from a turbo) it would work ok on a super charger set up.
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Well consider that for most low boost superchargers, an intercooler is optional. And if you can figure out a good way to route the piping for an intercooler, that would be great. But I just don't see where the tubing would fit, and if you did, it isn't going to be a short run.
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If you would go to the trouble and expense of a supercharger/intercooler setup for the Aerostar, why not add a (big/wide) scoop to the hood and put the intercooler in the space it creates? Lots of airflow at speed, short plumbing and it wouldn't interfere with the driver's vision. And since it's a fiberglass hood, you could get creative with the scoop design.

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If you would go to the trouble and expense of a supercharger/intercooler setup for the Aerostar, why not add a (big/wide) scoop to the hood and put the intercooler in the space it creates? Lots of airflow at speed, short plumbing and it wouldn't interfere with the driver's vision. And since it's a fiberglass hood, you could get creative with the scoop design.

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Because i'm tired of all the honda F*** (replace stars with the word that means bundle of sticks) calling my van a "Mexi ride" (not my fauld hispanics are smart about buying areostars for their larger familys!!!)
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also... my 3.0 gets hella quick when i mash it and it jumps up to like...45-5200 rpms... then it shifts to a diff gear for lower rpms... can the 3.0 handle high rpms? 5spd swap is lookin more tempting all the time...
Yes the 3.0L Vulcan can handle higher RPMs, the problem is the Accesories can't. The 3.0L V was the basis of the 3.0/3.2L DOCH SHO engine which can withstand over 8k RPM and will bolt right up to any Aerostar/Ranger 3.0L tranny. I have been contemplating (more like dreaming) about dropping a SHO engine into a 3.0 Aero (5-speed maybe ) but there would need to be alot of customizing and cutting to get those big heads to fit under the aero if it could.

For cheap power, I would recomend a whipple-charger instead of the T-Bird SC screw type. Easier to install.

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What do you mean accessory's can't? like the transmission and rear end? i know that with serious amounts of boost comes the need for: larger intake mani, larger high flow exhaust, high flow fuel pump, larger fuel injectors, performance MAF, diff. dizzy and what not... but is there anything else?
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He means engine accessories, alternator, etc.
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He means engine accessories, alternator, etc.
Oh? why not? i mean, obviously, if i'm going to do a performance build for an aero, i'm going to go all out... since it wont effect the price much IF i were to ever sell it...*cringes at that thought* should i be thinking about having some honda custom for ford parts invented? those things scream at high rpms... honda's crazy...lol
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You should probably aim your modifications toward improving torque across the "normal" engine rpm range. Honda designs their engines to scream at high rpms, but you need to rev them that high just to get any power out of them. So it is with the SHO 3 liter engine. They're just not practical for big heavy cars.
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Question What models have the SHO to fit my 3.0L Aero?

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Yes the 3.0L Vulcan can handle higher RPMs, the problem is the Accesories can't. The 3.0L V was the basis of the 3.0/3.2L DOCH SHO engine which can withstand over 8k RPM and will bolt right up to any Aerostar/Ranger 3.0L tranny. I have been contemplating (more like dreaming) about dropping a SHO engine into a 3.0 Aero (5-speed maybe ) but there would need to be alot of customizing and cutting to get those big heads to fit under the aero if it could.

For cheap power, I would recomend a whipple-charger instead of the T-Bird SC screw type. Easier to install.

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Could someone be so kind as to list what donor vehicle(s) have the SHO engine that would bolt into my 89 3.0L aerostar? I love my aero but the engine is tired...trnny too for that matter. Thanks!!!
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the SHO 4 cyl is rare

best to go a 4L Aero V6 from later model w tranny. far more take off torque, easy on gas and cheap compared to the hi pro exotics. parts are easy to find and cheap also
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What the 3.0 Aerostar Needs is...


A rebirth.

I'd love to see a new production of this van.



Sadly, they'd probably screw it up.
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Could someone be so kind as to list what donor vehicle(s) have the SHO engine that would bolt into my 89 3.0L aerostar? I love my aero but the engine is tired...trnny too for that matter. Thanks!!!
It was only availible in the '89-'95 Taurus SHO. Just check your local junk yards, they can be had for pretty cheap. $300-$500.

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the SHO 4 cyl is rare
New one on me. Unless you have some inside information.
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i was thinking of the 80s Mustang 2.3L Turbo SVO
different beast.

i'd still go with a built 4L with OBDII PCM and built 4R55E
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