Will the new f150 be released with the exact same engines that they have now? If so I would think that this would really hurt sales on the new truck. Ford is allready last on the hp wars, so to go all out with a new design and not have something new under the hood would be nothing short of suicide imo.
Glad to see the console shifter gone. Doesn't anybody miss the space taken up by that thing? What's wrong with the shifter on the steering column, just like it's been for about 40 years?
I guess to each his own. I like the console shift on my Lariat. The Lariat interior, including the console, is one reason that I bought the truck. I rationalized that the space I lost for a "third passenger" bench seat was more than made up for in the back seat. If it was a regular cab, I would agree that the console would be taking up valuable real estate.
Will the new f150 be released with the exact same engines that they have now? If so I would think that this would really hurt sales on the new truck. Ford is allready last on the hp wars, so to go all out with a new design and not have something new under the hood would be nothing short of suicide imo.
Suicide? I guess I just don't understand all the hype about "hp wars". I know that this matters to some people. But how much hp do you need to propel a 5000 vehicle at 70mph? I would much prefer good torque, fuel economy, dependability, and roadability over horsepower. Besides, you can get all the horsepower you can afford in the aftermarket . . .
Will the new f150 be released with the exact same engines that they have now? If so I would think that this would really hurt sales on the new truck. Ford is allready last on the hp wars, so to go all out with a new design and not have something new under the hood would be nothing short of suicide imo.
...Or they could rush out untested motors and have the cams snap . The F-150 will be fine...it's always been last in the HP wars (not including the lighting) and they have still been #1.
Glad to see the console shifter gone. Doesn't anybody miss the space taken up by that thing? What's wrong with the shifter on the steering column, just like it's been for about 40 years? Overall, it looks just like a facelift or freshening or whatever the call these things. From what I can see, it looks like a minor improvement, but like everyone I am wondering about the drivetrain changes, if any.
I like the console shifter also ,reason I bought the truck, I guess thats why its an OPTION on the Lariat trucks, I dont think its gone, there is a spy pic that shows the console pic but instead of chrome and plastic shifter, it appeared to be a wood or fake wood shifter.
My point is that imo you dont come aout with a new truck and keep everything else the same, its called progress especially when YOUR competition is moving foward in new tehnology, like more hp more torque, six speed tranny's. If Ford want to hit a home run with the new f150 they best do something with the 5.4 for now if a new motor isnt ready. You cant rest on something thats just getting by, you must lead or get out of the way. And Ford has a chance to lead on the release of the new F150.
My point is that imo you dont come aout with a new truck and keep everything else the same, its called progress especially when YOUR competition is moving foward in new tehnology, like more hp more torque, six speed tranny's. If Ford want to hit a home run with the new f150 they best do something with the 5.4 for now if a new motor isnt ready. You cant rest on something thats just getting by, you must lead or get out of the way. And Ford has a chance to lead on the release of the new F150.
I agree. If they release this new truck with the same old tired engine it's not going to be a good thing.
I drove an 07 the other day and although it does have decent power it was the slowest to accelerate and it seemed sluggish getting on the freeway and overall it does not compare to the 5.3 or the 6.0 that Chevy has or the 5.7 Toyota has in their vehicles when I test drove them.
It gets worse mileage than the competition on top of being underpowered.
Why go to the trouble to bring out a newly designed truck that is still way behind in HP and overall efficiency?
If Ford doesn't change the engine what's the appeal over this truck from the 07's and 08's?
it has already been said that they are going to up the power in the engins, comeing out with a 6.8L V8, and they are coming out witht eh diesel in 2009 or 2010. best thing to do is everytime you get one of those surveys from ford fill in where it asks for comments. i have been putting it in there every one i send.
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I agree. If they release this new truck with the same old tired engine it's not going to be a good thing.
I drove an 07 the other day and although it does have decent power it was the slowest to accelerate and it seemed sluggish getting on the freeway and overall it does not compare to the 5.3 or the 6.0 that Chevy has or the 5.7 Toyota has in their vehicles when I test drove them.
It gets worse mileage than the competition on top of being underpowered.
Why go to the trouble to bring out a newly designed truck that is still way behind in HP and overall efficiency?
If Ford doesn't change the engine what's the appeal over this truck from the 07's and 08's?
Seems to have plenty of hp for me my 04 puts me back in my seat when I hammer on it and thats with 3.55 rear end. I think I read somewhere that the 5.4 will be increased in hp to like 315 to 320.
I read that they 5.4L will get bumped up to 330 hp and more torque. The same frame as the expedition, and the same 6 speed transmission as the expo. Then job 2 will be the 6.2L, twin force, and then the diesel.
Here is a question for everyone concerning these pictures. I don't know about anyone else but doesn't that exhaust look just big enough to belong to a small (4.4) diesel. IMO that looks bigger than some of the small diesels the volkswagens have in them to me it looks possible. Maybe just wishful thinking on my part.
bookem15, I think that exhuast tip is just that, like they put on the expedition limited, a clamp on. I guess I have to see it when it comes out the pictures with that new front end don't do that much for me. I have an 06KR an unless they really up the power I think I'm keeping it for a long time.
Why do you understand there caution??? Because it is best to play to loose rather than win? Ford will never get out of the hole if they do not make revolutionary designs and technological inovation.
QUOTE=NoMo]It looks nice... just doesn't inspire me to run out and buy one as soon as it hits the lots. Would like to have seen a more "bold" redesign, but I understand their caution.[/quote]
this truck they have now i way more advanced than anyone elses. there are no other companies that put the shocks on the outside of the frame, only one other company has a fully boxed frame now, no one else has a truck as quiet on the inside. the ford my be under powered compared to other companies but it has the best payload and towing than any other truck and thats only going to improve with the next truck. ford trucks can also handle a trailer better than the rest of the companies. all in a nut shell the F150 can almost be compared to other companies 3/4 ton trucks.
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The F150 isn't in any holes- it's still the #1 selling vehicle in the US (maybe even North America). Thus, drastic changes are a risk whereas "tweaks" are a safer bet.
I do agree with cc332 and others. Ford needs the new gas engines at vehicle launch. Simply bumping (beyond reserve HP?) the tired old 5.4L won't cut it with anyone except the die-hard blue oval blinder-wearing crowd. And even then I have my doubts. Who here would run out and buy a new '09 knowing that 6 months after launch you can get the latest & greatest hurricane/boss/whatever engine that puts the 5.4 to shame?
To be clear, I'm only talking gas engines. I doubt any of the manufacturers come out with half-ton diesels until '10 or '11 when the new Federal mandates take effect.
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. The F-150 will be fine...it's always been last in the HP wars (not including the lighting) and they have still been #1.
