I disagree. Ford/Nav have produced millions of great vehicles. All at a very profitable curve for both companies.
Just because Ford decides it needs to re-tune Nav's fuel systems, to keep up with the Jone's. Doesn't mean it's Nav's fault.
The newer EGR/DPF Diesel Engines are all having problems. Dura Maxx's have been known to eat very expensive Inj's also. Cummins is having problems meeting the EPA requirements and keeping it's advertised HP/TQ numbers.
Only time will tell how Fords (Rover) diesel engine will do. Hopefully all will be well.
then can you explain all the probs with the 6.0L then and why all these new 6.4L when the rolled of the assymbly line blew flames out of the tail pipe?? ford would be better off using an in-house engin that they know is already proven. in all honestly though i would like to see cat make them a engin. would be expensive though.
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The probs with the 6.0 were faulty injs, nd tuning that Ford used. Nav saw less than 10% failure with the engines they installed in their trucks.
So "all these new 6.4's blow flames"???? I've heard of 3.
As I stated, all of the big three are having growing pains dealing with the new emissions policies.
Do You really think it'll be any different for Ford, building an in house diesel? If anything, it'll prolly be worse. At first. The only saving grace they'll have, is access to all of Rovers engineers/technology. Since Ford has no recent experiance building an EPA compliant diesel engine.
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Ford is developing 4.4L V8 "Lion" and 6.7L V8 "Scorpion" diesels for the F-Series. The engines employ tech developed in Ford's European joint venture with Peugeot, stuff Navistar can only dream of.
The engines will be assembled in Chihuahua, Mexico. The 6.7 makes 400 hp @ 3,600 rpm and 700 lb.-ft. @ 1,600 rpm.
Does this make anyone else all...hot and bothered? lol
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I would just like someone to say when the f150 is going to have the diesel as I really want to stay with the 150 but do not want to wait another year for it. I saved up all my pennies to pay cash for this truck and I only want to buy what I want as this is the last time I get a brand new truck. If the scorpion theory is correct maybe worth waiting for.
I would imagine the Scorpion will only be available in the Super Dutys and not an option on the F150. I don't believe Ford would ever put a 700 ftlb motor in the F150, it will be the Lion for the F150.
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The probs with the 6.0 were faulty injs, nd tuning that Ford used. Nav saw less than 10% failure with the engines they installed in their trucks.
So "all these new 6.4's blow flames"???? I've heard of 3.
As I stated, all of the big three are having growing pains dealing with the new emissions policies.
Do You really think it'll be any different for Ford, building an in house diesel? If anything, it'll prolly be worse. At first. The only saving grace they'll have, is access to all of Rovers engineers/technology. Since Ford has no recent experiance building an EPA compliant diesel engine.
trust me there were alot more than three because ford actually stopped building trucks with the 6.4 in it untill the problem was fixed. it needed either a reprogram or new software to stop the problem. but they stopped building the truck for like a month.
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