Biggest cubic inch Y-block
#31
I didn't quit the thread, my Dod, Dawg, told me it was time to go to bed. By the time I got done setting the trip wires, arming the pencil flares, and a few fun things it was time to watch the last publically broadcast lies and propaganda for the day.
Going back and looking at the thread I do believe there are some numbers that have been jumbled around, some maybe even by me. The engine that Vern posted is part and parcel to the whole Tank you very much part of this thread, with a number of twist and turns added and removed.
I'm glad I was able to clairify this.
Going back and looking at the thread I do believe there are some numbers that have been jumbled around, some maybe even by me. The engine that Vern posted is part and parcel to the whole Tank you very much part of this thread, with a number of twist and turns added and removed.
I'm glad I was able to clairify this.
#32
I think johnnyc has some pics of his engine of the 337 varity in his gallery. I thought the song Hot Rod Lincoln was done in the late sixties or seventies at least Commander Cody and the lost something or others version was. Anyone remember the little nash rambler song? if so who did that one? It is intristing to note that the newer cadillac V16's were of teh L head varity while the older ones were OHV. that is whack!!!!
#33
Originally Posted by GreatNorthWoods
Not a Y-block but this is an 1100 cubic inch V8 from a WWII Sherman tank. It was rated at 500 HP with dual overhead cams and four valves per cylinder...pretty high tech for an engine built in the 40s...
#34
as taken from wikipedia:
337
This motor was designed for large truck service. When Lincoln could not produce the V12 engine it wanted for the 1949 model year, the 337 motor was adapted for passenger car use. The 337 features a 3.5 in (88.9 mm) bore and a 4.375 in (111.1 mm) stroke.
It was introduced in the 1948 two and a half ton and three ton Ford trucks and the 1949 Lincoln passenger cars. It was produced through the 1951 model year. In 1952 it was replaced in the Lincoln passenger cars and Ford three ton trucks with the Lincoln Y-block 317 in³ (5.2 L) overhead valve V8. The two and a half ton Ford trucks got a 279 in³ (4.6 L) version of the 317 motor.
In the song "Hot Rod Lincoln", the engine referred to in the original lyrics was a Lincoln V-12 not mentioned in the Commander Cody version.
337
This motor was designed for large truck service. When Lincoln could not produce the V12 engine it wanted for the 1949 model year, the 337 motor was adapted for passenger car use. The 337 features a 3.5 in (88.9 mm) bore and a 4.375 in (111.1 mm) stroke.
It was introduced in the 1948 two and a half ton and three ton Ford trucks and the 1949 Lincoln passenger cars. It was produced through the 1951 model year. In 1952 it was replaced in the Lincoln passenger cars and Ford three ton trucks with the Lincoln Y-block 317 in³ (5.2 L) overhead valve V8. The two and a half ton Ford trucks got a 279 in³ (4.6 L) version of the 317 motor.
In the song "Hot Rod Lincoln", the engine referred to in the original lyrics was a Lincoln V-12 not mentioned in the Commander Cody version.
#35
#36
That's a pretty cool article. Lots of mud. I like the part that says "after servicing, the diesel engine started." I'd like to go down to the Midway Is. area and check out some of the vintage armour laying around the beaches and stuff. The picture that sticks in my mind is of a Sherman that got stuck while unloading, and is still sitting on the shore, as it did back then. There is supposedly a couple Shermans, and a Priest, and something else out in the desert here in central Oregon that were used as targets by the military.
#37
Originally Posted by wmjoe1953
That's a pretty cool article. Lots of mud. I like the part that says "after servicing, the diesel engine started." I'd like to go down to the Midway Is. area and check out some of the vintage armour laying around the beaches and stuff. The picture that sticks in my mind is of a Sherman that got stuck while unloading, and is still sitting on the shore, as it did back then. There is supposedly a couple Shermans, and a Priest, and something else out in the desert here in central Oregon that were used as targets by the military.
Kinda untouched by time unlike that 57 Plymouth in Tulsa.
Id like to have one of those Gamma Goats for going out in the woods.
#38
I did a lot of research, and had almost all of the intact Shermans lost in WWII located. Including most of the ones that have been collected and restored. There are still several that reside on U.S. military installations, and several in museums around the world. There is a guy in PA that has a few, as well as many other military armour and vehicles from different wars. There are some in GA, IN, and a few more scattered about the states. There are more than a dozen still in the south pacific, including some that are in very restorable condition. I used to have close to 10GB of info and photos, and schematics, and stuff on the M4 thru M4A4E8 Shermans.
#39
Originally Posted by f100kid1936
By the way, I have a collection of R&C dating back to the 25 cent "little pages."
I still have the one where the mechanical engineer said man would never go faster thn 140MPH in the 1/4 mile. He missed it by a whole bunch!
The pinup inside the back cover woke up the hormones in the young teenager!
#40
Originally Posted by f100kid1936
This is the one time, and probably the only time, I'm going to dispute Numbers. The real hot rod Lincoln, as in the song, was and is still, owned by an old country western singer from, I believe, Washington state.
He wrote the song on his way to do a concert way back when. I don't remember much about the song itself, but I used to listen to it on the radio back in the '50s. Maybelline, why can't you be true..Oh Maybelline... (I can't remember all of the song either)I think it had something to do with winning a street race on the way to the concert, but I'm not sure. Yup, against a Cadillac.
The story, as told in Rod & Custom mag was that an old timer walked up to a street rodder getting some work done on his car(lube, oil change, whatever) and mentioned that he had a car like that.
The rodder sloughed it off as,"yeah, yeah, I've heard that BS before." But the old guy invited him to see the car and it turned out to be the original Hotrod Lincoln.
The young rodder contacted a well known rod shop in the northwest about the car and along with some donations from other shops and manufacturers, the car was rebuilt free of charge for the old guy!
By the way, I have a collection of R&C dating back to the 25 cent "little pages."
I still have the one where the mechanical engineer said man would never go faster thn 140MPH in the 1/4 mile. He missed it by a whole bunch!
He wrote the song on his way to do a concert way back when. I don't remember much about the song itself, but I used to listen to it on the radio back in the '50s. Maybelline, why can't you be true..Oh Maybelline... (I can't remember all of the song either)I think it had something to do with winning a street race on the way to the concert, but I'm not sure. Yup, against a Cadillac.
The story, as told in Rod & Custom mag was that an old timer walked up to a street rodder getting some work done on his car(lube, oil change, whatever) and mentioned that he had a car like that.
The rodder sloughed it off as,"yeah, yeah, I've heard that BS before." But the old guy invited him to see the car and it turned out to be the original Hotrod Lincoln.
The young rodder contacted a well known rod shop in the northwest about the car and along with some donations from other shops and manufacturers, the car was rebuilt free of charge for the old guy!
By the way, I have a collection of R&C dating back to the 25 cent "little pages."
I still have the one where the mechanical engineer said man would never go faster thn 140MPH in the 1/4 mile. He missed it by a whole bunch!
1949/51 Lincolns and the Ford F7 and larger trucks shared the 337 cid flathead V8. In 1949, the Lincolns used Borg-Warner Overdrives, but added Hydra-Matic in 1950 and 1951 as an option. The plan was to use a V12 in the 49/51 Lincolns, but that all changed because of what happened with the 1949 Ford.
Henry was senile, and so The Deuce (Henry Ford II) was made prexy and CEO of Ford in 1944 at age 21 (Edsel died in 1943) and brought in Ernie Breech after the war ended as head of production. FoMoCo was moribund, had no production or engineering staff..to put it mildly, FoMoCo was a mess. Breech hired 50 members of the former War Production Board (nicknamed the Whiz Kids) to oversee finances in order to rescue FoMoCo from near bankrupcy. By late 1947, the plans for the 1949 cars were set, but Breech decided the 1949 Ford design was too heavy.
Breech asked his friend Holden (Bob) Koto who worked for Raymond Loewy to design a new 1949 Ford. He had a month to do it. Working nights (he baked the clay model in his stove), Koto did what was asked, and the only change Breech made was turning the taillights horizontal from Koto's vertical design. When Loewy found out, he fired Koto, who then went to work for Ford.
So, the original 1949 Ford design became the Mercury, the Mercury became the Lincoln and the Lincoln became the Cosmopolitan. It was then decided to scrap plans for a Lincoln V12, so the 337 cid truck engine was used instead.
Three of the Whiz Kids are well known today. Thomson, Ramo and Woolridge left Ford after a short time and started a new company using the initials of their last names: TRW.
Last edited by NumberDummy; 10-29-2007 at 03:04 AM.
#41
Number D, I had to go way back to June 1990 of R&C to find that story about the Lincoln. Seems as I had the basic story right, but some of the facts wrong.
Charlie Ryan wrote the song about his car, an A model he bought after he wrecked a '41 Lincoln. He used the A model body over the Lincoln chassis, which was shortened 2' to fit! Later on he swapped to a '48 Lincoln engine.
In 1987 Charlie brought a car to a Tacoma WA body shop and saw a photo of a '32 Phaeton on the wall. He told the manager, Bob Davidson, " I have a model A coupe I wrote a song about." To shorten this thing up, Bob Davidson saw the coupe and decided it must be restored. After getting together with 19 people, Davidson rebuilt the coupe for Charlie and his wife Ruth. Numbers, Maybelline was Chuck Berry. We used to have a couple of radio stations around that played music from the '50s and '60s, but they've all changed their format now. Pity.
AX, I don't have any Honk, but have Hot Rod dating back to 1957. I joined the AF in 1954 and I asked my mother about my older mags. She said she had thrown them away! She figured I'd outgrown that stuff. Imagine that.
Charlie Ryan wrote the song about his car, an A model he bought after he wrecked a '41 Lincoln. He used the A model body over the Lincoln chassis, which was shortened 2' to fit! Later on he swapped to a '48 Lincoln engine.
In 1987 Charlie brought a car to a Tacoma WA body shop and saw a photo of a '32 Phaeton on the wall. He told the manager, Bob Davidson, " I have a model A coupe I wrote a song about." To shorten this thing up, Bob Davidson saw the coupe and decided it must be restored. After getting together with 19 people, Davidson rebuilt the coupe for Charlie and his wife Ruth. Numbers, Maybelline was Chuck Berry. We used to have a couple of radio stations around that played music from the '50s and '60s, but they've all changed their format now. Pity.
AX, I don't have any Honk, but have Hot Rod dating back to 1957. I joined the AF in 1954 and I asked my mother about my older mags. She said she had thrown them away! She figured I'd outgrown that stuff. Imagine that.
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That's what I love about this place When you ask a question, somoene does their best to answer it. Many times their even right!! Seriously, I love it when Number Dummy answers, you can take his answers to the bank!! Keep it goin guys, I'd love to see some pics of some of these rare engines!! I think they're awesome. I seen a pic of a chopper motorcycle with a radial airplane engine on it. I seen 2 different ones one with the engine cyls pointing forward and one with them pointing out side to side from the frame. That was awesome.
Maybe we could have a thread for " Dark Dark Darksiders" with radical engines in F100's??? Of course someone would probably be offended, but WHO CARES!!
Drive em if ya gotem!!
Maybe we could have a thread for " Dark Dark Darksiders" with radical engines in F100's??? Of course someone would probably be offended, but WHO CARES!!
Drive em if ya gotem!!
#45
Originally Posted by Econoline 150
Didnt they have a 317 cid that also saw duty in medium duty trucks ?
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