I have a 2003 Escape 2WD V6 with 38,000 miles. I rarely drive it, but I took it to the dealer for an oil change service and they told me the inside brake pads were wore so bad it needed new pads and rotors. When I drove it to the dealer I didn't hear any grinding or squeaking. I would have expected to get 60K or more out the brakes. Is this normal for an Escape? I plan on getting a 2nd option anyway.
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2005 F250 SD Lariat CC SRW 6.0 4x4
2003 Escape V6
2001 22" One-Touch Kettle
2004 Large Big Green Egg
My pads and rotors were shot at 44K. I didn't mind replacing the pads at that milage, but having to replace the rotors too was not good. Now with only 13K more miles on the Escape since then I can feel a lip developing on the rotors once again as the pads cut into them. I'll never put Motorcraft brake parts on that Escape again, especially the rotors!!!
Well, the tire shop I use also said pads and rotors need replaced. My wife drives this vehicle and I started thinking about how she drives...like Sammy Hagar, one foot on the brake and one on the gas! You can get a whiplash riding with her. So new pads and rotors it is.
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2005 F250 SD Lariat CC SRW 6.0 4x4
2003 Escape V6
2001 22" One-Touch Kettle
2004 Large Big Green Egg
I do my brake work myself and I had just replaced my pads maybe a month before I took it in for tires.The service person said I would need a brake job in a short among of time so sometimes you can't believe what they tell you.I have 20k on them since and the pads are still good.
I've owned my '03 Escape for just over a year. I heard a faint rubbing sound from the rear right when I applied the breaks lightly at low speed. I had checked the front pads when I fist got the car and they looked about 3/8" thick. Not knowing how fast these wore out I decided to stop at a brake & tire shope. The mechanic said I had 40% left, he cleaned them with brake cleaner and problem solved. This car has over 88K. Even if the previous owner did brake work the numbers are good. The mechanic said some people (newer cars) get 100k. He said, front pads used to wear out 2/1 to back drums, according to him, not anymore.
They charged me $32. I felt good about these guys.
Just did front brakes, over 100k miles and only it's second set of brakes. Outer pads looked like they could went a few more miles, inners were shot and the rotors were wasted. Not to mention rusted on horribly. Front caliper design kills the inners before the outers. I even passed NYS inspection with shot inners cuz the fools only look at the outer pads.
I did pads and rotors on my wife's Escape when it had about 55K, just because it seemed like time, and she was away for a bit and I had access to the vehicle. The pads I took out looked like she could have gotten another 55K out of the.
As was said above, it depends a whole lot on how you drive. I had a friend who delivered newspapers for a living - nothing but stop, so, stop again. She was lucky to get 15K out of a set of brakes.
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'97 Ranger 4.0 4wd
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'04 Mustang
'66 Hertz Shelby Mustang
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Ford installed "soft" rotors on these for awhile.. the theory was the pads would continually "cut" the rotors while braking, to help reduce noise and vibration.
The problem is, the trade off is LOTS of brake dust and disposable rotors.
They have since changed the design to a traditional style. Simply put.. if the rotors are original, you should replace them with cast (aftermarket highly recommended), and a high quality set of ceramic pads. You'll get more life and less dust this way.
38,000 miles on a set of front pads is actually pretty good these days. Typically I see them worn on late model vehicles (of all makes and models) at 30-35,000 miles... but this is in a city environment.
Ford installed "soft" rotors on these for awhile.. the theory was the pads would continually "cut" the rotors while braking, to help reduce noise and vibration.
The problem is, the trade off is LOTS of brake dust and disposable rotors.
If the pads were meant to cut the rotor, wouldn't you get *less* dust? Unless the dust was metal filings off the rotors, which I think would be fairly easy to spot as it would rust instantly.
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Originally Posted by MazdaRangerGuyInSTL
38,000 miles on a set of front pads is actually pretty good these days. Typically I see them worn on late model vehicles (of all makes and models) at 30-35,000 miles... but this is in a city environment.
I'd be very disappointed to get less than 50K on a set of pads/rotors, but that's just me. Mostly city driving might be worse, although you could argue that lots of slow speed braking wouldn't be any worse than somewhat less high speed braking. Obviously if you pull a trailer with any weight that will affect brake life too. But if you don't tailgate on the highway (i.e. don't be one of those drivers that on/off/on/off the brakes in the high speed lane) and generally drive with a little anticipation there's no reason you can't get plenty of miles out of a set of brakes. Just like a clutch, it a whooole lot depends on the driver...
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'06 F-350 5.4 4wd
'97 Ranger 4.0 4wd
'03 Escape Limited 4wd
'04 Mustang
'66 Hertz Shelby Mustang
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"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened." - Churchill
.. if the rotors are original, you should replace them with cast (aftermarket highly recommended), and a high quality set of ceramic pads. You'll get more life and less dust this way.
+1 on this advice, regardless of make/model vehicle.
I took my sister's 06 escape in at 29,000 kms and the brakes and rotors were shot. Amazingly the service advisor said they had been replaced at 17,000 kms as well, which was just before my sister bought it (used from the dealer). So on her truck it has been two sets of brakes in 29,000 kms. On my 06 escape I had 41,000 kms when I put new ceramic pads on it, the original pads still had about 30% pad left on them and the rotors were still decent. I now have 64,000 kms and all is still good. No warpage on the rotors at all. I like the aftermarket ceramic pads very much , they should be a good performer in the long term IMO. Ford pads plain stink. The pads on my Fusion are piss poor, can't wait to swap them out with ceramics as well.
most newer cars will get about 30k on the oem set.
i see them all the time with very low miles and worn brakes/rotors.
alot does depend on the driver tho.
i bet the aftermarket set lasts longer.
also 4wheel disc will wear front and rear(rear not long after) very close together. whereas rear drum wil be about a 2:1.
and trucks with 4wheel disc often will wear the rear before the front.
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were shot at 44K. I didn't mind replacing the pads at that milage, but having to replace the rotors too was not good. Now with only 13K more miles on the Escape since then I can feel a lip developing on the rotors once again as the pads cut into them. I'll never put Motorcraft brake parts on that Escape again, especially the rotors!!!
