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Old 09-24-2007, 11:00 AM
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TSB's?

Does anyone have access to full text TSB's? I wanted to see if there have been anymore listed on the 07's.
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Old 10-08-2007, 10:56 AM
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you should post that question on the 6.4 board they are always talkin about tsbs and such. Also https://myford.fordvehicles.com and you can register your vehicle and recieve recall notices not sure bout tsb.
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Old 10-08-2007, 11:13 AM
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There are a few sites you have to pay to subscribe to in order to get the full text TSBs. People will post some of them here from time to time.

My Ford does not list TSB's, just recalls.
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Old 10-08-2007, 06:47 PM
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Try This:

http://baumbach.com/Expedition.htm
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Old 10-09-2007, 12:47 PM
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Holy Smokes what that a funny read. Some info was funny as heck and some was just crazy.

I like where he says the front hubs could be causing the banging noise, someone needs to tell him that there are NO front hubs on these trucks, you have to go to a 250 to get hubs. IFS uses a slip type front setup to engage the front differential. Why in the world would you put your truck in N and let it coast anyway unless you were haering this problem.

I also like the axles are weaker in reverse then forward, huh, must have two axles, one for forward and one for reverse, otherwise it's the same shaft, pulling forward or back. The only part that maybe weaker is the transmission as it's gear reduction is less then the new 4.17:1 first gear.

He also notes the front tow hooks are weak and should only be used to recover you. EACH front tow hook is rated at 30K lbs, that's approx 5X his vehicle weight (that is at least 3x the weight of a f-350 Diesel). Hooked together for a pull that is 10xs your vehicle weight. I'm sure the strap most people use is going to break long before that hook.

Then the 20" rims don't grip as well as the 18" in a turn????? I'm confused, less sidewall = better steering response and better handling to the limit, it also makes it hard to roll a tire off the bead as the tread/sidewall can not roll as much.

I do however agree with him that dealer service departments are marginal at best but that is everywhere you go. In today's world it's no ones job, or at least that's the feeling I get.

I enjoyed that read though.


As to TSBs you can get partial info from a lot of places including the NTSB (serach their website). For full info you'll have to pay but at least you know what the TSB is before you go in.

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Old 10-15-2007, 08:14 PM
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Post or email me your VIN, and I'll run your TSBs...
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Old 10-21-2007, 12:11 PM
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Holy Smokes what that a funny read. Some info was funny as heck and some was just crazy.

I like where he says the front hubs could be causing the banging noise, someone needs to tell him that there are NO front hubs on these trucks, you have to go to a 250 to get hubs. IFS uses a slip type front setup to engage the front differential. Why in the world would you put your truck in N and let it coast anyway unless you were haering this problem.

I also like the axles are weaker in reverse then forward, huh, must have two axles, one for forward and one for reverse, otherwise it's the same shaft, pulling forward or back. The only part that maybe weaker is the transmission as it's gear reduction is less then the new 4.17:1 first gear.

He also notes the front tow hooks are weak and should only be used to recover you. EACH front tow hook is rated at 30K lbs, that's approx 5X his vehicle weight (that is at least 3x the weight of a f-350 Diesel). Hooked together for a pull that is 10xs your vehicle weight. I'm sure the strap most people use is going to break long before that hook.

Then the 20" rims don't grip as well as the 18" in a turn????? I'm confused, less sidewall = better steering response and better handling to the limit, it also makes it hard to roll a tire off the bead as the tread/sidewall can not roll as much.

I do however agree with him that dealer service departments are marginal at best but that is everywhere you go. In today's world it's no ones job, or at least that's the feeling I get.

I enjoyed that read though.


As to TSBs you can get partial info from a lot of places including the NTSB (serach their website). For full info you'll have to pay but at least you know what the TSB is before you go in.
I am glad you enjoyed the site, and that you found at least some of the info useful. :-)

I think the word “Hub” does best describe that part of the vehicle, as stated in the owner’s manual the word Hub not only refers to that part of the front but also the rear of the vehicle (page 299) There are manual locking Hubs, and different types of automatic Hubs, in this case they are eclectic solenoid vacuum operated, vacuum is required to keep them disengage. Hence, impart why the owner’s manual says not to tow 4x4 models with the front wheels on the ground, but if necessary, not over 35 mph, and or 50 miles.

Please re-read the site, I never said the front tow hooks were weak. Also, you might want to check with some experienced 4x4 off-road recovery people as to what drive train parts are more likely to fail when doing heavy hard pulling in reverse, even more so with oversized tires. i.e. Ring and Pinions, U-Joints, Axles, etc., i.e., flex, fatigue, hardness, twist, run, design, etc. . I assure you, it’s not just the transmission. Look closely at the design of the gears on a Ring and Pinion.

As to coasting in neutral, the issue is turning the ignition switch off while moving, here are some rare cases you might have the need to do one or both, cut-off fuel source in case of fire, through a fan belt, dropped a drive-shaft, re-start after a stall, electrical fire., etc. In this case I had turned off the ignition switch to power cycle the mobile-ease system that was malfunctioning, but found to do this you would also need to open a door because of the power-off delay option. I then wanted to know how vehicle would handle before one of the above incidents happens or you should run out of gas at high speeds, how the brakes and steering would function. We now know a loss of vacuum causes the front “Hubs” to grind gears badly and then engage.
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Try NHTSA for TSBs

http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/tsbs/
This will give you the Ford TSB number, date, and a summary of what it it about.

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Old 10-26-2007, 10:37 AM
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http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/tsbs/
This will give you the Ford TSB number, date, and a summary of what it it about.
I looked. It does have them, but they are the older ones.
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Old 10-29-2007, 12:56 PM
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Thanks for the link!!
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