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Old 08-23-2007, 05:25 PM
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Question possible sale of Land Rover

What's gonna happen if the possible sale of Land Rover goes thru and the future of the new possible 150 diesel.
   
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From what I understand, the 3.6L engine is a Ford engine used in Land Rover. The 4.4L is a derivative of that engine, again, owned by Ford. The sale should have no effect.
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Good riddens.

Along with it should go Ashton Martin, Jaguar and Volvo. Ford should concentrate on keeping Ford, Mercury and Lincoln going PROFITABLY and not worry about stuff across the pond. Just my .02.

The way I figure the F-150 will probably get a diesel whether or not they still own Land Rover.
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This probably means Ford is in a lot worse shape than they lead us to believe !
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The new 280hp V-8 diesel is available in the `07 model Range Rover and is getting great reviews. It is ironic that the first diesel with enough power for the Range Rover is an in-house Ford unit and now Ford have Land Rover up for sale.
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They already sold Aston Martin. I think its a bad idea to sell them alot of the current cars are based on the volvo and the volvo saftey.

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Hello all;

Something else to keep in mind is that some of these european and Japanese lines are what is helping to keep Ford afloat. Many of these products are profitable in their own right. As mentioned above, there is a strong trickle down theory from the high end vehicles in the form of technology.

All pieces of the giant puzzle we call Ford. Careful what you wish for, you may get it. We do not always see the entire picture when looking at only the Blue Oval.
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Hello all;

Something else to keep in mind is that some of these european and Japanese lines are what is helping to keep Ford afloat. Many of these products are profitable in their own right. As mentioned above, there is a strong trickle down theory from the high end vehicles in the form of technology.

All pieces of the giant puzzle we call Ford. Careful what you wish for, you may get it. We do not always see the entire picture when looking at only the Blue Oval.
I'm sure trucks help Ford as well.

I always figured if the companies Ford aquired were making money, why did the previous owners sell?

I just think the money is better spent making the vehicles you do have better and more solid than to delve into other manufacturers headaches.

I didn't know Ford already sold Aston Martin, however they probably sold it for less than they paid for it.
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Good riddens.

Along with it should go Ashton Martin, Jaguar and Volvo. Ford should concentrate on keeping Ford, Mercury and Lincoln going PROFITABLY and not worry about stuff across the pond. Just my .02.

The way I figure the F-150 will probably get a diesel whether or not they still own Land Rover.
I THINK THEY SHOULD KEEP VOLVO SELL THE OTHER ONES THOUGH
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I THINK THEY SHOULD KEEP VOLVO SELL THE OTHER ONES THOUGH
I could be wrong, but I think I read on here that they are trying to sell Jag, Land Rover, and Volvo as a package deal...Because nobody would buy the other two without Volvo, because Volvo is the only one of the three that is actually profitable.

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I could be wrong, but I think I read on here that they are trying to sell Jag, Land Rover, and Volvo as a package deal...Because nobody would buy the other two without Volvo, because Volvo is the only one of the three that is actually profitable.

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All three are currently making money for Ford. The issue is for how long, and what is the percentage return on the investment. In otherwords, what is the current interest rate. Sort of like a savings account.
Volvo sold itself to Ford as I recall, the same as Chrysler did with Mercedes. They were profitable, just not getting enough return on the investment for the investors to buy more Volvo stock. Something on the order of the predicament that Ford itself is in now. Fords' return is like 1-2% depending upon what time period your looking at. So, if you have a situation like that. And you have valueble assets. Especially the ones that someone else would like to pay a handsome amount of money for you to sell to them. Thus, selling this asset is then enhancing your financial situation. And improves your financial resources, and limits your liabilities as you no longer have to invest in this subsidiary corporate venture. Which further enhances your financial situation and makes borrowing even more money in the form of higher valued stocks even more likely, but also more affordable and so the upward spin goes. Eventually everyone wants a piece of your action as you are now making money. Maybe not the best product in the world, but one that is in demand. And a product offering that is consistently making a profit at a rate that makes investing in your corporation a good thing for their income/ return on investment. Remember, they don't want you to be Honda. Just make more money than Honda for them. And you are then a winner!
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i think bmw has been trying to buy volvo from ford
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All three are currently making money for Ford.
Volvo has always been profitable, Jaguar and Land Rover haven't made a cent for Ford since day one. One look at the sales figures of Jag tells the awful truth.

Despite 6 BILLION dollars + spent, Jag sales are less than 2,000 units a month.

Profit? What profit?

There has been none and tomorrow won't change a thing.

Where are the potential buyers?

Jag and Land Rover have been for sale for two years.

No buyers in sight.
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I wouldn't hold my breath on ford selling land rover or the rest. England wants ford to keep LR and jag. Also there is a lot of excitment at ford about the release of the new jag. LR and volvo both make ford money, jag needs a shot in the arm.
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Well, what do you expect when you sell a vehicle many times more capable (Explorer, Expedition) for 1/3 the price. People that buy a Landrover are buying it for a nonexistant status symbol. Now, there are many things that Ford could be doing to improve sales. LR does have a market.
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