LR has world wide sales, but what would help, would be a couple of scaled down models. I would like to see the defender 90 back over here to compete with jeep. The defender is what made LR famous.
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What's gonna happen if the possible sale of Land Rover goes thru and the future of the new possible 150 diesel.
The engine is a Ford engine (i.e. Land Rover don't own the rights to it )
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Originally Posted by Matts72
Well, what do you expect when you sell a vehicle many times more capable (Explorer, Expedition) for 1/3 the price.
I take it you haven't driven a recent Land Rover
And more to the point - taken it off-road.
Land Rover is running at record sales levels... and profit levels.
Even Jaguar should make a profit this year.
(Oh - and Volvo never has been up for sale, it was both Land Rover and Jaguar)
They already sold Aston Martin. I think its a bad idea to sell them alot of the current cars are based on the volvo and the volvo saftey.
Having owned a Volvo, I don't think Ford has done them any favours, and in fact, IMHO it is quite the opposite. Ford wouldn't be producing a passenger car worth owning without Volvo. I'm not just ranking on Ford either. All of the domestics need to get off thier laurels and produce a better vehicle or the Japanese will clean their proverbial clocks. The last best place IS the truck market, and there too the Japanese are catching up.
With that said, the handwriting is on the wall giving the Big Three precious little time to get thier act together. Think I'm full of hot air? Witness the multiple problems with the 6.0L diesel. Same goes for G.M. as far too long they have depended upon GMAC fiancining as a cash cow. It is way past time for them to get serious and produce quality vehicles, not concepts. I don't know about you, but I'm sick and tired of hearing about how the unions have "busted" them. Inasmuch as they say they can't compete, why not try building a better vehicle?
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We are seeing a similar effect like in the early 80s, where japanese cars were taking over with higher build quality, lower prices, and better performance (they adapted when domestics wouldn't). The domestic automakers started started to wine, and japs went into a voluntary quota system, but that was before large branch assembly plants were in north america for the "import brands".
I honestly don't know what the big 3 (more like 2.5) will do this time around...built something relivant prahaps?? Or just a bigger, better gas guzzler?
And I rather like landrovers, they were building aluminuim bodies long before it was cool to do so. A truck that won't rust, theres a concept for you.
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Yes Ford is probably going to sell Jaguar and Land Rover. The Jag is a much better car now, but sales are not what Ford expected. Volvo is very profitable and will not be for sale.
Tony Blair had a long meeting with ford about keeping jag and LR, could be some incentives to do so. I believe it would be a mistake to sell anything right now, if ford can't make it work with some of the best brands in the world including ford, they need to go under.
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You are exactly right... Jaguar and Land Rover would go under and we would lose them if not for Ford. I'd take an XJ-R over any LR, but I still think they have a place, and besides, who would be able to buy them right now. The US Economy is about to take a big dive unless interest rates drop about 1% over the next year.
You are exactly right... Jaguar and Land Rover would go under and we would lose them if not for Ford. I'd take an XJ-R over any LR, but I still think they have a place, and besides, who would be able to buy them right now. The US Economy is about to take a big dive unless interest rates drop about 1% over the next year.
Folks that are the target market for Jag or LR are not terribly concerned with the interest rates when they look to buy a new Jag or LR. Only people that buy them using a loan shouldn't be driving one anyway.
All LR's aren't the expensive luxary boxes we get here, the defender series is still sold all over the world as a true off/road jeep style vehicle with removable top and not alot of gadgets, just off/road capability and thier in the price range of the upper scale wrangler rubicons. We could get them here in the mid 90's. The defender 90 is an awesome looking and capable off/road vehicle. If they would bring it back over here, it would give jeep a run for it's monry.
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All LR's aren't the expensive luxary boxes we get here, the defender series is still sold all over the world as a true off/road jeep style vehicle with removable top and not alot of gadgets, just off/road capability and thier in the price range of the upper scale wrangler rubicons. We could get them here in the mid 90's. The defender 90 is an awesome looking and capable off/road vehicle. If they would bring it back over here, it would give jeep a run for it's monry.
You partially explained why it isn't sold here any longer. One it's a basic machine. Even Jeep doesn't sell one nowadays. And at a high dollar Jeep price there just isn't any demand for such a vehicle in our market. Two, it's an old chassis design and it will not meet the crash test dummy requirements. So, you can thank the Federal Government for looking out for your safety and the Soccer Moms not wanting any part of it.
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