2000 350 7.3 Diesel verses 2008 - 350 Diesel 6.4L
#16
I think the 7.3 is the hands down winner for durability, ease of maintenance, people know how to work on them almost anywhere, cheaper parts and availability, definately built for 500K + miles. The 08, nice truck, turns sharper, nice options etc, butttt, the entry cost, high cost of maintenance, bugs to be worked out, and another new engine with more EPA goodies, remember the 6.0 nightmares,the wing nuts for cab removals, and the new short engine warranty. Rumor, Ford is lean on warranty repair funds. Question, how bad do you want new paint?
#17
Originally Posted by F350-6
Unless you want captains chairs with a 6 speed. Sorry I'm still bitter about that.
How important is comfort and a quiet ride? Can you deal with an older truck breaking down? As for me I'm still waiting on the stupid captains chairs.
How important is comfort and a quiet ride? Can you deal with an older truck breaking down? As for me I'm still waiting on the stupid captains chairs.
i was thinking more along the lines of things like brakes, springs etc. i prefer the bench with the fold down console myself, no capt chairs available in the 2008?
#18
Originally Posted by bf250
i was thinking more along the lines of things like brakes, springs etc. i prefer the bench with the fold down console myself, no capt chairs available in the 2008?
I'm just bitter because I think for that kind of money I should be able to sit my but in whatever seat I want to.
#19
As I was talking with my co-worker he mentioned something about having to buy Ford brand (Ford Gold Antifreeze) only. Also the 6.4 can only burn 5% or less biodiesel.
His understanding also is that while driving down the road, every so often a vibration shows up, which is the new particulate burner firing up. Evidently there is nothing you can do about it.
Tracie
His understanding also is that while driving down the road, every so often a vibration shows up, which is the new particulate burner firing up. Evidently there is nothing you can do about it.
Tracie
#20
Originally Posted by Highway Prisoner
I think the 7.3 is the hands down winner for durability, ease of maintenance, people know how to work on them almost anywhere, cheaper parts and availability, definately built for 500K + miles. The 08, nice truck, turns sharper, nice options etc, butttt, the entry cost, high cost of maintenance, bugs to be worked out, and another new engine with more EPA goodies, remember the 6.0 nightmares,the wing nuts for cab removals, and the new short engine warranty. Rumor, Ford is lean on warranty repair funds. Question, how bad do you want new paint?
#21
Originally Posted by tnystuen
As I was talking with my co-worker he mentioned something about having to buy Ford brand (Ford Gold Antifreeze) only.
Originally Posted by tnystuen
Also the 6.4 can only burn 5% or less biodiesel.
Originally Posted by tnystuen
His understanding also is that while driving down the road, every so often a vibration shows up, which is the new particulate burner firing up. Evidently there is nothing you can do about it.
Tracie
Tracie
So, does this guy own a Ford or is he just an avid reader? He sounds like a Super Duty Wanna Be.
#22
poppie, I will try to keep this short. The suncoast converter worked fine for 200,000 + miles. I had a BTS installed at 300,000 + miles, great tranny, flawless performance, 2 sets of injectors, 3 alternators, 2 starters, 2 waterpumps, 1 turbo 4 sensors including cps. Oil, Delvac1, FS2500 bypass, since first oil change, switched to Rotella synthetic, 15K oil changes. Yes, I sure would like to see a million miles. I do deliver new rvs, mostly to western Canada. The 08's have some nice features, but My needs are for a workhorse that is reliable, so the 02 7.3 has been the ticket. I am just a little biased.
#23
#24
Originally Posted by nhill2090
what is this reflash you speak of ?
Most folks get a chip with several programs/files/tunes on it, but the cheapest way is to just have them reburn the PCM with one tune.
Come check out the 7.3L section if you're interested in 7.3L performance.
#25
Originally Posted by Highway Prisoner
poppie, I will try to keep this short. The suncoast converter worked fine for 200,000 + miles. I had a BTS installed at 300,000 + miles, great tranny, flawless performance, 2 sets of injectors, 3 alternators, 2 starters, 2 waterpumps, 1 turbo 4 sensors including cps. Oil, Delvac1, FS2500 bypass, since first oil change, switched to Rotella synthetic, 15K oil changes. Yes, I sure would like to see a million miles. I do deliver new rvs, mostly to western Canada. The 08's have some nice features, but My needs are for a workhorse that is reliable, so the 02 7.3 has been the ticket. I am just a little biased.
#27
Pulling 15,000 down the road, I'm a rookie towing with the 99 7.3/350, though I've done a lot of towing ocean to ocean with a 89 4.9 250 24000 CGVW. The questions I'd suppose to ask, old/new automatic/manual, the 99 has a massive cooling package
and towing 10k I've not seen the temp vary much above the usual normal running.
How much time is going to be spent towing versus driving? As the numbers get higher
toward towing, you want big brakes, big cooling and plenty of leeway for safety and
durability. I wouldn't think any of the newer diesels from Ford / Dodge / GM are slouches or the word would get around and they'd not sell. Sure there's failures in
everyones barn, but did they do maint by the book or better? Old doesn't mean its
going to break down, the odds may be higher, the 89 will die from rust sooner or later but not breaking down, maybe breaking in half. Comfort is a big safety item, if you're comfortable on the road, you can focus more on driving and less on annoying little stuff. If I had the need to tow 15k, I'd look for something that was rated for 20, bigger margin, bigger cooling hopefully longer life, the only part that bothers me is that
towing ratings seem based more on a burst of acceleration versus sustainable towing
of a given load, 4.11 gears get a lot more towing than 3.80's but the cooling and all other packages, brakes and such are the same. Ford-Trucker84537 was right, don't go comparing newer to older. Brand new likely involves more $$ and less tinkering
and repairs for a bit, older may be tougher, and it may be tougher on you, comp the 99 to the 89, the 99 is way easier down the road, better seats and much better, smoother ride, the automatic makes me nervous for no good reason and a new CPS did add peace of mind by getting rid of stalling but the 99 is new for me, even almost now going 10 years newer to 2008, more problems have been fixed and spiffed up.
-Jason
and towing 10k I've not seen the temp vary much above the usual normal running.
How much time is going to be spent towing versus driving? As the numbers get higher
toward towing, you want big brakes, big cooling and plenty of leeway for safety and
durability. I wouldn't think any of the newer diesels from Ford / Dodge / GM are slouches or the word would get around and they'd not sell. Sure there's failures in
everyones barn, but did they do maint by the book or better? Old doesn't mean its
going to break down, the odds may be higher, the 89 will die from rust sooner or later but not breaking down, maybe breaking in half. Comfort is a big safety item, if you're comfortable on the road, you can focus more on driving and less on annoying little stuff. If I had the need to tow 15k, I'd look for something that was rated for 20, bigger margin, bigger cooling hopefully longer life, the only part that bothers me is that
towing ratings seem based more on a burst of acceleration versus sustainable towing
of a given load, 4.11 gears get a lot more towing than 3.80's but the cooling and all other packages, brakes and such are the same. Ford-Trucker84537 was right, don't go comparing newer to older. Brand new likely involves more $$ and less tinkering
and repairs for a bit, older may be tougher, and it may be tougher on you, comp the 99 to the 89, the 99 is way easier down the road, better seats and much better, smoother ride, the automatic makes me nervous for no good reason and a new CPS did add peace of mind by getting rid of stalling but the 99 is new for me, even almost now going 10 years newer to 2008, more problems have been fixed and spiffed up.
-Jason
#28
Originally Posted by ryaneverk2
www.dp-tuner.com
Most folks get a chip with several programs/files/tunes on it, but the cheapest way is to just have them reburn the PCM with one tune.
Come check out the 7.3L section if you're interested in 7.3L performance.
Most folks get a chip with several programs/files/tunes on it, but the cheapest way is to just have them reburn the PCM with one tune.
Come check out the 7.3L section if you're interested in 7.3L performance.
thanks i was aware of the DP, im stashing money to replace my hypertech with one, but i was misunderstanding whoever mentioned the reflash i thought they meant the dealer
#29
It is true, you must remove the cab from the chassis on an '08 to remove the engine. That may be a consideration if you plan on keeping the truck. I have 413K on my 2000 and I just replaced the engine at 385K. It was a job to get IT out of the truck, 1000 pounds of iron to lift over the crossmember and it barely clears the cowl with the turbo removed. Can't imagine removing the cab too!
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