Sterling 10.25 questions.
#1
Sterling 10.25 questions.
Ok, I decided it is time to update my Dana 60 rear end. I started scrounging wrecking yards looking for an early 1990’s sterling as you guys suggested. However, I am getting a lot of conflicting statements from the so-called experts at the wrecking yards. Some are telling me that the driveshaft will have to be modified. Some are telling me the e brake cables will have to be shortened. Some are telling me that the drums will not come off without removing the hubs as my Dana 60 does. This was one of the main reasons I want to replace the Dana 60. I don’t like the idea of having to pull the wheel bearings every time I want to check the brakes.
I need some help from you differential gurus out there. Just what the heck am I looking for?
I need some help from you differential gurus out there. Just what the heck am I looking for?
#3
Originally Posted by kermmydog
I'm not sure about the first two questions. But on my 10.25" on my 86 F250 4x4 the drums can be removed without pulling the axles.
#4
I forgot to add this question to my original post;
I found a sterling in a van. The guy tells me they are the same as the ones in the trucks. I measured a Dana in an earlier van and the spring hangers were totally different. Does anybody out there know if the sterlings were the same dimensions in the vans and trucks.
I found a sterling in a van. The guy tells me they are the same as the ones in the trucks. I measured a Dana in an earlier van and the spring hangers were totally different. Does anybody out there know if the sterlings were the same dimensions in the vans and trucks.
#5
The ring gear is larger on the 10.35 than the D60 so it is reasonable to assume that the driveshaft may be too long. It is minimal, and if the truck id lifted at all, you might get away without change.
Parking brake cables just need to be re-routed with a lrger service loop so you dont work the cable at too much of an angle, and the cable will still work fine. Better to be too long than too short. PLenty of room under the truck for this.
The drums on the early sterling are a slip on type, and many disc conversions also allow the rotor to slip on without removing the hub, so bearings stay while you chck the brakes. While we ar on the subject, a disc brake conversion would be a great idea. Then you have fantastic brakes and will never have to remove a drum to check the brakes ever again.
This is true for the 60 as well.
I like both axles, and was wondering, if the 60 has not failed, and you have not broken it in 30 years, is it really necessary to go bigger? New bearings and seals to freshen it up would leave time and money for a disc conversion, and you should expect another 30 years of performance.
Not to mention the unknown miles from a salvage yard unit, you may end up having to put bearings in the 10.25 in a short period of time.
Just a thought.
Parking brake cables just need to be re-routed with a lrger service loop so you dont work the cable at too much of an angle, and the cable will still work fine. Better to be too long than too short. PLenty of room under the truck for this.
The drums on the early sterling are a slip on type, and many disc conversions also allow the rotor to slip on without removing the hub, so bearings stay while you chck the brakes. While we ar on the subject, a disc brake conversion would be a great idea. Then you have fantastic brakes and will never have to remove a drum to check the brakes ever again.
This is true for the 60 as well.
I like both axles, and was wondering, if the 60 has not failed, and you have not broken it in 30 years, is it really necessary to go bigger? New bearings and seals to freshen it up would leave time and money for a disc conversion, and you should expect another 30 years of performance.
Not to mention the unknown miles from a salvage yard unit, you may end up having to put bearings in the 10.25 in a short period of time.
Just a thought.
#7
Originally Posted by mark a.
Why not a srw Dana 70 ?
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#8
Originally Posted by 75F350
The ring gear is larger on the 10.35 than the D60 so it is reasonable to assume that the driveshaft may be too long. It is minimal, and if the truck id lifted at all, you might get away without change.
Parking brake cables just need to be re-routed with a lrger service loop so you dont work the cable at too much of an angle, and the cable will still work fine. Better to be too long than too short. PLenty of room under the truck for this.
The drums on the early sterling are a slip on type, and many disc conversions also allow the rotor to slip on without removing the hub, so bearings stay while you chck the brakes. While we ar on the subject, a disc brake conversion would be a great idea. Then you have fantastic brakes and will never have to remove a drum to check the brakes ever again.
This is true for the 60 as well.
I like both axles, and was wondering, if the 60 has not failed, and you have not broken it in 30 years, is it really necessary to go bigger? New bearings and seals to freshen it up would leave time and money for a disc conversion, and you should expect another 30 years of performance.
Not to mention the unknown miles from a salvage yard unit, you may end up having to put bearings in the 10.25 in a short period of time.
Just a thought.
Parking brake cables just need to be re-routed with a lrger service loop so you dont work the cable at too much of an angle, and the cable will still work fine. Better to be too long than too short. PLenty of room under the truck for this.
The drums on the early sterling are a slip on type, and many disc conversions also allow the rotor to slip on without removing the hub, so bearings stay while you chck the brakes. While we ar on the subject, a disc brake conversion would be a great idea. Then you have fantastic brakes and will never have to remove a drum to check the brakes ever again.
This is true for the 60 as well.
I like both axles, and was wondering, if the 60 has not failed, and you have not broken it in 30 years, is it really necessary to go bigger? New bearings and seals to freshen it up would leave time and money for a disc conversion, and you should expect another 30 years of performance.
Not to mention the unknown miles from a salvage yard unit, you may end up having to put bearings in the 10.25 in a short period of time.
Just a thought.
#9
Originally Posted by wb6vvv
Have you ever had leaking pinion seal problems on yours? Some of the guys tell me to stay away from the mid 80's sterlings because of this. I did find an 86 in one of the bone yards, but dismissed it because of this. If you have never had problems with yours then maybe I will revisit this one.
#10
$1000.00 for a disc brake conversion? Holy cow where are you shopping? I see them for arround $300.00 to $500.00 all day long. Complete kits. I also see brackets for less than $100.00, this is the toughest part, everything else can be bought over the counter at your local parts store. Everything is over the counter chevy front end parts. If you like the parking brake, the it may run a little higher than the $300.00. But $1000.00, no way.
If you are gonna shop for an axle, and want a stronger one, you can look for a 60 with a better gear, and still do the disc swap for less than you are gonna spend on gears alone.
Much cheaper than you think.
If you are gonna shop for an axle, and want a stronger one, you can look for a 60 with a better gear, and still do the disc swap for less than you are gonna spend on gears alone.
Much cheaper than you think.
#11
I have 2 Sterling axles, one of them is under an F-250 trailer I just made. The one on the trailer (1990) had a yoke that used larger u-joints than the one on my 1985. The yokes were swapable thopugh. My 85 axle had no leaks with 109k on it, but I did have it regeared and rebuilt last year. The pinion bearing on the 90 is shot, and one axle seal leaks. The 90 axle had 156k miles on it. Both axles have removable drums with out pulling the hubs. The 90 axle also has an ABS plug on it.
#12
Originally Posted by 75F350
$1000.00 for a disc brake conversion? Holy cow where are you shopping? I see them for arround $300.00 to $500.00 all day long. Complete kits. I also see brackets for less than $100.00, this is the toughest part, everything else can be bought over the counter at your local parts store. Everything is over the counter chevy front end parts. If you like the parking brake, the it may run a little higher than the $300.00. But $1000.00, no way.
If you are gonna shop for an axle, and want a stronger one, you can look for a 60 with a better gear, and still do the disc swap for less than you are gonna spend on gears alone.
Much cheaper than you think.
If you are gonna shop for an axle, and want a stronger one, you can look for a 60 with a better gear, and still do the disc swap for less than you are gonna spend on gears alone.
Much cheaper than you think.
#13
I just realized that you are very close to me. I live "down the hill". I have a couple of connections for you. I can help. I also have a couple of 14 bolts with 4.10's if you need a rear end.
Anyway I see brackets on evil bay all of the time, and buy it now priced are right at 85 bucks.
I recall TSM having brackets available. If you can cut plate steel, I believe I still have a template to make the brackets.
Pm me with some contact info, and I can set you up with additional info.
Anyway I see brackets on evil bay all of the time, and buy it now priced are right at 85 bucks.
I recall TSM having brackets available. If you can cut plate steel, I believe I still have a template to make the brackets.
Pm me with some contact info, and I can set you up with additional info.
Originally Posted by wb6vvv
I would like to know where you are finding this stuff. I have searched the Internet and this website for disk brake conversions for 3/4 ton trucks and so far have only found one and the kits are extremely expensive. I don't even know how to find this bracket for $100.00. Give me a clue where to look or what to look for and I will check it out. I have found no information or parts list on how to do this. If so I would have already done it. I have asked several parts houses, Garages and wrecking yards up here on the High Desert and all I get is blank stares.
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Originally Posted by wb6vvv
I would like to know where you are finding this stuff. I have searched the Internet and this website for disk brake conversions for 3/4 ton trucks and so far have only found one and the kits are extremely expensive.
http://www.blackbirdscustomtrucks.com/index8.html#6str
#15
Originally Posted by tjc transport
here ya go. complete kit for $550
http://www.blackbirdscustomtrucks.com/index8.html#6str
http://www.blackbirdscustomtrucks.com/index8.html#6str