theres no diesels in f-150's yet.......but now that we bring up the idea of the lcf diesel.....i wonder if that would fit in the f150.....200hp 440 ft-lbs......hmmm
That was the plan for the '04 F150, but international couldn't get it to meet the NVH requirements ford had set for the f150 (can't advertise quiet steel if your diesel engine can still be heard over even that). Just one of the many things working to end the Ford-International relationship. Instead we'll see a 4.4L european designed diesel in the (09-10) F150 which will be tons more refined and advanced, I think the numbers are over 300hp.
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Also delayed is the much-ballyhooed "Boss" 6.2-liter V8 (known earlier by the code name "Hurricane"). The big 425-hp gasoline V8, mated to a six-speed automatic transmission and earmarked especially for commercial users, has been pushed back until model-year 2011, according to suppliers. The engine is expected to employ such advanced technology as twin turbochargers, direct injection and cylinder deactivation, to provide the optimum combination of performance and fuel economy.
if it takes 6.2 liters AND twin turbos to make 425hp, i'm getting me one of those manly ridgelines.
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Also delayed is the much-ballyhooed "Boss" 6.2-liter V8 (known earlier by the code name "Hurricane"). The big 425-hp gasoline V8, mated to a six-speed automatic transmission and earmarked especially for commercial users, has been pushed back until model-year 2011, according to suppliers.
The current issue of Motor Trend says the 2009 F150 will be introduced mid year 2008. The 6.2 engine will be available early 2009.
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Well, with Dodge getting a smaller diesel in '09, Ford had better not sit around on that 4.4L for too long. Allpar.com scuttlebutt says the Dodge will have a Cummins V8 with about 460 ft-lbs of torque ... and it's supposedly going to get 20 city/25 hwy MPG. That would be a world beater as far as half-tons go.
Also coming for the '09 Ram will be a new V6 and a bigger Hemi, possibly 6.1L like the SRT engines. I think there will be a hybrid with the Hemi available, too.
dodge just anounced that they are eliminating the displacement on demand system due to high costs and low interest.....looks like dodge doesn't care about mileage again...
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I honestly don't know what to believe about the new F-150. Hopefully they will introduce the new diesel soon enough. The 6.2l boss sounds cool, but I don't think I'd want one due to the price of gas. I'd much rather have the diesel. I guess we'll have to wait and see what Ford decides to do.
I honestly don't know what to believe about the new F-150. Hopefully they will introduce the new diesel soon enough. The 6.2l boss sounds cool, but I don't think I'd want one due to the price of gas. I'd much rather have the diesel. I guess we'll have to wait and see what Ford decides to do.
Not going to start a debate about gas vs diesel, but don't be surprised when you find that the new emissions requirements for diesels have pretty much leveled the playing field when it comes to fuel economy. Diesels aren't getting much (if any) better mileage than gasoline engines... at least in the Super Duty world.
NoMo, I believe you, especially with the SD trucks. However, I think there are going to be some smaller, maybe a little higher-revving diesels that are still going to outdo gas engines as far as MPG. Supposedly Volkswagen's '08 Jetta sport wagon is going to get a 2.0-liter four-banger turbodiesel that delivers 60 MPG. Maybe the new light-duty diesels will follow that philosophy???
There's going to be a lot of changes in the diesel world over the next couple years, and all the old expectations just ain't going to apply anymore. There's no guarantee performance will ever be the same. We're all just going to have to wait and see how it all turns out.
Not going to start a debate about gas vs diesel, but don't be surprised when you find that the new emissions requirements for diesels have pretty much leveled the playing field when it comes to fuel economy. Diesels aren't getting much (if any) better mileage than gasoline engines... at least in the Super Duty world.
in and around town i agree, go out on the highway with the rpm's just under 2000 and you'll see the mileage numbers differing,
More points to ponder-
Emissions regulations are even more strict for "light-duty" trucks. Thus, any diesel in an F150 will be more 'crippled' than those in the Super Duty trucks.
We've not yet seen what the new emissions systems are going to cost in terms of maintenance. Particulate filters, chemical treatments, etc aren't cheap right now. Prices might come down in the future, but that's pure speculation (how many things are actually getting cheaper these days?)
I'm guessing it will be impossible to cruise at the speed limit at/below 2000 RPMs. As jnewkirk77 noted, diesels are getting to be quite high-revving beasts. And the smaller they are, the more they'll have to rev to be competitive in the pickup power wars.
We'll definitely need to wait & see what comes out. Just don't run out and drop your hard-earned cash on a new truck without first doing some research. And don't automatically assume that diesel = high MPG.
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