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Old 07-09-2007, 07:45 AM
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Pilot Bearing help - 61 Econoline

I have acquired a 200 CI 6 to be dropped into my 61 Econoline P/U. Being a newbie at this and wanting to keep costs low, I am trying to do this myself. Anyway, finding difficulties trying to put the clutch/bellhousing back together with the engine... and believe the problem is that I am missing some parts - like the pilot bearing, and what it rides in? (I understand that it should reside at the end of the crankshaft). I am guessing that the engine came out of a vehicle that had an automatic transmission. Any help is appreciated - thanks...
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Old 07-10-2007, 10:28 PM
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Well, I am resigned to locating a pilot bearing / assembly - so that I can install the 200 Ci 6 cylinder with the original 3-speed manual transmission - back into the 61 Econoline P/U. Does anyone know where one can be found?
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Old 07-15-2007, 10:33 PM
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Found under RockAuto an 8016 bearing - and purchased at Napa Auto. It slipped in real easy into the crankshaft... is this right? (OD is 1.378 inches... ID is .6299, which is just a hair smailler than the .634 max. stated for the transmission input shaft). Also, I placed the rubber backing towards the transmission, not towards the crankshaft - does anyone know if this is correct? Lastly, is there any special tricks involved in re-connecting the transmission back to the engine? I have used a universal tool in reinstalling the clutch and pressure plate....
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1961 Econolines used 144 or 170 engines. The transmission is the 2.77 crash first type. 200 engines used the Ford 3.03 all syncro transmission, only. A 200 using the earlier 2.77 transmission, is the reason I typed no part number for the pilot bearing, because I didn't know what would fit.

The 144/170 pilot bearing is: 1.38" O.D. - .629 I.D. - 1/2" thick.

The 200 pilot bearing is: 1.38" O.D. - 11/16" I.D. (Ford p/n: C20Z-7600-A)

Both of these are solid bronze bearings.
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It seems that the 144/170 bronze bearing would be the right one - is there a part # somewhere?
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It seems that the 144/170 bronze bearing would be the right one - is there a part # somewhere?
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Sure. I didn't list it because I thought you already had one, seeing how you are swapping engines, and the 144/170 pilot bushing would have been the one originally used.

C0DZ-7600-A .. Pilot Bushing = replaces: C0DD-7600-A
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Just curious, my '63 came to me with a '65 200ci, but the tranny is the 2.77 crash type. Was that a direct swap-out or did they have to change the flywheel/clutch and/or driveshaft?

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Have not gotten it all done yet - but it appears that the scatter shield (from the transmission) aligns up with the holes on the 200 CI. It seems like a direct swap - I could give more info, but I am learning about this as I go along... I just know that the 8016 pilot bearing fits into place w/o having to pound it in. Will supply more info as this project goes along.
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I'm trying to remember the details when I helped a friend replace the 144 in his Falcon with a 200. I think the 200 had a different bellhousing pattern, so we had to hunt down a bellhousing to adapt to the "toploader" pattern.
As an aside, the non-synchro transmissions were used in Canada until 1964.
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It has been awhile since I last replied to this - but the 200 was a direct bolt-in... got the engine in - and running....
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