Great post Fredvon and my Montana Fiver is 13 feet high and my V10 makes me proud every time I tow with it. The pickup.com comparison on diesel versus gas towing up 7 % grades is complete vindication for me as I have been called a liar for my claims on grade towing with this incredible Torque-shift V10 combo. It is awesome and this article shows how the V10 is right there with the new 6.4 PSD on a 7% grades both towing 10500 pounds.
I think the 6.4 is supposed to outpull the dissapointing sick-litre so that means a V10 should blow the doors off a 6.0 and I guess that is why Fredvon has never had a taker in his stock V10 versus stock PSD challenge.
All I know is when I tow the infamous Coke from Hope to Kamloops, I weigh 20800 pounds and I have passed many rigs the same size as mine but I have never been passed. My truck is a winner and the day I found this forum and read a few of Fredvon's posts was a lucky day for me. I ordered my big CC LB 4x4 V10 and after 30 months , this truck is still my all time favorite truck and the best part of the truck is my V10 engine, the king of gassers.
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2005 F350 Lariat FX4 CC LB SRW with 11200 # GVWR, moonroof, Torque shift , manual transfer case, and the 6.8 V10 engine.
I don't know what to say here guys.My 05 V-10 is a brute. As we have said we are pulling this 13K 5th wheel anchor all over the country and we get up all the grades up to and including 9% thus far . The V-10 does the job.However to suggest that the V-10 gas motor will out pull a Diesel on a steep grade at High Altitude or for that matter a steep grade at any altitude ..is well I dont know,,all I can say is that in my real world...this V-10 will not do that at any RPM..... We just ran across Nebraska and Iowa and are now in a KOA in Rock Island, Ill. MPG the last couple of days 8.6 MPG steady. In the last month have run South Dakota, Wyoming, Colorado Rockies..we did not out pull any Diesels...We were also not embarrassed by any Diesel. Had a guy pull into a CG in Colorado who had passed me on a hill and came over to say that he had to pedal real hard to get around me and was amazed to see that I was a V-10. He kept saying...A V-10 I can't believe it... Passed a 18 wheeler on a fairly good grade and saw him look down as we screamed around him..he radioed back,,showing off that V-10 are we.. Said he pulled a camper with one just like it.These are good motors guys...but????
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went 6.4l from 05 V-10...F-350,CC,LB, 4X4 off road, dually, camper package, snow plow package. 4:10LS
I'm running a 2000 Excursion with v10 (2valve) & 4.30 axle ratio...we pull a 7500 lb travel trailer. I've been real happy with performance, we just got back from running through the Canadian Rockies, Montana & Idaho.
I didn't pull every grade at 60 mph, but nothing less than 45 mph. Even running at 4500 rpm, that engine never felt like it was running to hard...great engine.
It won't outrun a diesel on the climbs, but doesn't get blown away either. We're looking at a trailer that will way about 1k lbs more...not a concern to me in pulling it through the mountains.
wrenchtraveler and fred are right, this engine-transmision combo are really impresive. I dont pull big travel trailers but I DO PULL really heavy. My trailer loaded with skidsteer and attachments regularly wiegh in at 15k and I have never had a problem pulling hills on the highway or in traffic on the streets. This thing will pull steep grades at 70mph with these wieghts with pedal to spare. This engine is a sheer brute at 5000 rpm the power is amazing, you cant go wrong with this motor. Hey any of you guys thought about the new body with a v-10
wrenchtraveler and fred are right, this engine-transmision combo are really impresive. I dont pull big travel trailers but I DO PULL really heavy. My trailer loaded with skidsteer and attachments regularly wiegh in at 15k and I have never had a problem pulling hills on the highway or in traffic on the streets. This thing will pull steep grades at 70mph with these wieghts with pedal to spare. This engine is a sheer brute at 5000 rpm the power is amazing, you cant go wrong with this motor. Hey any of you guys thought about the new body with a v-10
You have a one of a kind V-10..keep it forever. My 05 V-10 although a fine motor will not pull my 13K 5th wheel up a steep grade at 70MPH ...Period.Unless that steep grade is about 100 feet long and you started d at the botom at 80MPH.
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went 6.4l from 05 V-10...F-350,CC,LB, 4X4 off road, dually, camper package, snow plow package. 4:10LS
Load that rig down sir and get a scale weight....please.... you just saying you pull a 13K trailer don't mean nuttin....
I have pulled my signature rig with 22,830 pounds up and over the longest and steepest interstates in the USA... I can accelerate at will from any condition including climbing out into uphill traffic from the wrong side of the road at a scenic lookout on steep curvy sections...probabluy the single most important place you NEED torque and POWER!!!
Now it is quite possibel I got a strong one and you got a funky low power one...but I need to know the true story about yout rig trailer and weights cuz I know them mountains well and the only other thing I might guess is that you are not willing to bounce the motor off the rev limiter...I am...
and I will make my challenge here in this thread also...
I will gladly accept ANY test of speed, strength, stopping, turing, dead weight haul, what ever the hell you can dream up as a test between my STOCK 3v V10 and ANY stock Diesel truck in the same weight class (1 ton 350 series, 3500 series whatever) And now that I have seen a LOT of 6.4s here in central Texas, I am confident to say ANY Stock diesel against my stock 415 CI 3v V10 4x4 4.30 zero modification F350
Load that rig down sir and get a scale weight....please.... you just saying you pull a 13K trailer don't mean nuttin....
I have pulled my signature rig with 22,830 pounds up and over the longest and steepest interstates in the USA... I can accelerate at will from any condition including climbing out into uphill traffic from the wrong side of the road at a scenic lookout on steep curvy sections...probabluy the single most important place you NEED torque and POWER!!!
Now it is quite possibel I got a strong one and you got a funky low power one...but I need to know the true story about yout rig trailer and weights cuz I know them mountains well and the only other thing I might guess is that you are not willing to bounce the motor off the rev limiter...I am...
and I will make my challenge here in this thread also...
I will gladly accept ANY test of speed, strength, stopping, turing, dead weight haul, what ever the hell you can dream up as a test between my STOCK 3v V10 and ANY stock Diesel truck in the same weight class (1 ton 350 series, 3500 series whatever) And now that I have seen a LOT of 6.4s here in central Texas, I am confident to say ANY Stock diesel against my stock 415 CI 3v V10 4x4 4.30 zero modification F350
I am with fred I must haVE one of those powerfull ones and like fred I will put up the same challenge my truck is stock and I know it will pull with any diesel that is not modded of course. Let that thing rev dont be afraid
I too got lucky and got a strong V10 as mine has the 4.10 gears and will pull my 20800 combined rig up 6% grades at 70 plus. On the other hand Rich, I do burn more gas than you do.
Rich, I do not post on the MOC anymore as I was punted off for some reason.
I love Ford trucks and I was hoping the new 6.4 PSD would keep Ford on top.
According to everything you read, the 6.4 Ford is the least powerful of the 3 new diesels. D-max #1. Dodge #2 and the 6.4 is last .
Back when I bought my 95 7.3 PSD , it was king of the hill and could spank anything GMC and Dodge made right out of the box.
But guess what......... my V10 gasser could spank both my 95 and 2000 PSDs but we still hear people say you can't tow with a V10. This world is full of ignorance and it always will be. So many pickup buyers out there, would be much better off with a gas tow vehicle, but the media and pure peer pressure has made a lot of people think you can't tow heavy with gas.
Here is the latest piece of proof on how reliable a pickup diesel is.
Chrysler has just announced a life time powertrain warranty on many of their vehicles including the Ram 2500 and 3500. This applies only to the original owners and guess what!!! The mighty diesel is not included.
Could it be that Dodge knows what it costs to keep a diesel on the road for 10 or 15 years. In many cases ........... more than a gasser.
Come on people......... wake up and smell the diesel myth.
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2005 F350 Lariat FX4 CC LB SRW with 11200 # GVWR, moonroof, Torque shift , manual transfer case, and the 6.8 V10 engine.
The best way to show what a V10 can pull at altitudes (even a lowly 2V) is pull into a camping area with what I pull. Where we fish I have to go over ether Eisenhower Pass, Berthoud Pass, Rabbit Ears Pass or Trail Ridge, The photo says it all.
Denny
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2000 F350 Lariat SC DRW V10 4.30 Gears BrakeSmart
Air Lifts 4X2
2003 HH Premier 35 FKTG
BSEG started 4/15/2000
I have no problem with the V-10,It is a good motor and I pull all over the country with it . I have never bad mouthed the V-10 I am just absolutely honest in what I can and can not do with MINE Apparently there are much better ones out there but the Ford folks can find nothing wrong with mine. I can also accelerate from a dead stop on the steepest grades but NOT to 70MPH. My Total weight as of about 7 months ago at a Flying J scale was 21600lbs. The GVWR on my 06 Montana 3400 is 13975. The GCWR on my truck is 23,500 and the 5th wheel tow cap is 16,100. We are within all weight specs and will stay there.I agree most folks buy a diesel for all the wrong reasons Which is why I have the V-10..that is what I needed. Let us not forget that although I have the V-10 we drive way more diesel miles than Gas miles per year and I am well aware of the good and bad of both motors. Next time I hit a 6% grade I will attempt a dead stop at the bottom and 70MPH at the top..Don't remember what the grade was on I 70 out of Alamogordo, NM but I think you run from about 6K feet to about 12K . We stopped for fuel and lunch at the bottom, just about were the militray Camper park is along the interstate. We hit 50MPH at the top and we were screaming. We did not have any more..
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went 6.4l from 05 V-10...F-350,CC,LB, 4X4 off road, dually, camper package, snow plow package. 4:10LS
richfaa there is one other thing to look at between my 2000 DRW with 4.30 gears 215/85/16 tires and your 05 with 17" tires (can't remember the size)and 4.30 gears you would have to go to 4.56 gears to get the same final gear ratio as I have. The 99 and 00 where the only years that used the 215 tires.
Denny
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2000 F350 Lariat SC DRW V10 4.30 Gears BrakeSmart
Air Lifts 4X2
2003 HH Premier 35 FKTG
BSEG started 4/15/2000
The best way to show what a V10 can pull at altitudes (even a lowly 2V) is pull into a camping area with what I pull. Where we fish I have to go over ether Eisenhower Pass, Berthoud Pass, Rabbit Ears Pass or Trail Ridge, The photo says it all.
Denny
I like the photo.....shows what the V10 does pull.....
