Is there a difference in a 460 Ford and a 460 Lincoln block? I am trying to put a Lincoln 460 in a '55 F-100. I called a vender about a crossmember for this truck. The ad says the crossmember will not work with Lincoln and Mercury engines. I have a '71 429, a '73 460, and a '75 460. I was told that one of the 460's is from a car and the other is from a truck (I'm not sure). I measured all three blocks from the lower front hole to the front of the block and got the same measurement on all three.

 

It's the oil pan that is different. The blocks are the same. Thus crossmember issues. Cars are usually front sump and trucks and vans are rear.

 

Two additional reasons the car engine won't fit well into a '65 or later truck:
1. The car installations usually have the accessories, especially the A/C compressor, sitting low. The truck setup, on the other hand, has the A/C compressor sitting up high.The low-sitting setup from the car usually interferes with the cross member or other frame member.
2. The passenger side exhaust manifold interferes with the frame. You need to use a '79 or earlier manifold for a truck 460.

The 460 used up to 79 in the trucks was a Lincoln engine, and for bolt-up similarities, was essentially the same as the Lincoln 460, except for the accessories. In fact, the truck heads and blocks have the D3V Lincoln casting codes.

After 1979, the 460 was changed from internal balance to external, and the codes were changed to an E3T type number. There were other internal modifications, all minor, except to the power hungry.

Now whether this applies to your '55, I don't know.

You might want to consider using the mid-'80s oil pan, oil pump and pickup tube, and dipstick. They will fit any 460.

Here is what I have in my '65, and it was all Ford bolt-up with the exceptions listed below:

I am getting 15 MPG at 70 MPH with a nearly stock 460 in my '66 F-100. And I have power to spare.
‘86 460 bored 60 over with stock '86 heads - no porting
'77 F-250 460 engine perches and mounts
'69 straight up cam gears, Cloyes double roller with RV type cam
Edelbrock Performer (not RPM) intake and 1470 750 CFM carb on a 1" phenolic spacer
'76 Duraspark II ignition
Stock aftermarket manifolds with a 2 1/2 inch dual exhaust (plain mufflers); copper gaskets
'93 serpentine belt brackets and pulleys
'78 power steering pump, hoses
with ’93 PS pulley
'76 power steering box
’76 power steering pitman arm
’92 power steering cooler, mounted in the frame
'70 steering column
'66 radiator (re-cored)
'66 alternator
with '93 serpentine pulley and fan
'86 water pump
'86 fan clutch with '77 7-blade fan
'83 C-6 from an '83 F-350 fifth wheeler, with '77 C-6 linkage (internal shift rod and kickdown)
2.75 rear end
'83 stock rear sump oil pan, with stock oil pump, pickup tube and dipstick (includes main bearing bolt with stud to hold pickup in place)
Includes '93 A/C compressor, but A/C is not installed. (Needed for the serpentine belts.)
’76 F-150 3-inch rear brakes

The only modifications I had to make were:
Fabricate an accelerator cable bracket by combining an FE one with a 385 one.
Shorten the front driveshaft to adapt to the C-6 (with a conversion joint)
Change the C-6 internal shift linkage from a ’68 – ’79 C-6.

 

Thanks for the info. I had a feeling that they were all the same extenally. My son is wanting to "rat rod" the '55 and he says accessories are not needed. He just wants the "power" under his foot. I think he wants to be able to keep up with my '64 Galaxie that has a 429c.i. with a tunnel ram intake with 2X4 carb setup, 4 speed and 4.10:1 posi rear that gets 15 MPG highway(not that good between red lights). lol

 

I gotta call BS on any 429 with dual 4s on a tunnel ram and 4.10 rear end getting anywhere near 15mpg and that's not even counting the weight of the Galaxie. Physics says it ain't possible and 40+ years around cars, street machines and real race equipment says the same.

 

I call BS, too. My SD EFI 302, E4od, and 3.55 gears gets 15MPG highway.

 

Friend, if the Galaxie wasn't being restored, I would let you buy me a tank of gas and I would prove it. I am not trying to start an arguement, but I know what I got.

 

First off, a tunnel ram is a very high rpm and peaky horsepower manifold and at normal driving speeds are totally inefficient, mainly because of the long runners, even ignoring your claimed dual 4s on top. Second, a 4.10 rear gear is a mileage killer in any vehicle. Hell I have 4.10s in my F250 with bigger diameter tires than you and with a stock 460 with a recurved dist. and worked over crab and 3" exhaust and driving very carefully, 10 mph is just out of reach and that's with a canopy on the bed to help the mileage numbers. I had a 428CJ in one hell of a lot lighter car and even with 3.00 in the rear the best it would pull was 13 mpg with ram air working and that was with way better aerodynamics than your Galaxie could ever hope for. With the drag pack 4.30 gears, mileage crashed down to just less than 10 mpg. So either you have a miracle car with a miracle motor of you are blowing major smoke.

 

could be pure ignorance, im not sure but the odometer could be giving a **** reading showing more milage than actually travelled, my old 66' lincoln would show i was getting about half a mile to the gallon, odometer hardly read... and another possibility to this old humurous thread would be he may just be a **** poor mathematician

 

could also be oversize tires on the rear, throwing the reading off. Dad had a 64 C4 289 Galaxie, that he put 15's on the back and it would read 70 while doing 85 on the hwy

 

I've come to believe that the ad's that say "won't work on Lincoln or Mercury motors" mean the MEL-type big blocks (like the 462).

The 460 conversion mounts for 351M/400 trucks in the LMC catalogue says the same thing.

My '79 460 came out of a '79 F250 camper special and it has a front-sump just like my 351M has.

Rob.

 

actually what the ads should say is "will not work with Mercury or Lincoln motor mounts, must use Ford motor mounts".

all 429/460 blocks are the same (cars and trucks) with the same motor mount pads on the motor. the actual motor mounts (the rubber and steel pads that go between the frame and blocK) are different configuration between the Ford and Mercury/Lincoln cars (of course accessory locations and oil pans are differnent also between cars and trucks). the instructions that come with the crossmember tell you which mounts to use (i think a mid 70's LTD tupe car, but it's been a few years since i bought them).

rgds
Mike

 

im suprized no one remembers the bell housing holes on the back of the 385 blocks! some of them have both licolon and ford patterns cast into them,then some only have the ford pattern and some of the early one's have the licolon pattern. ford one is like evryone knows same as a 400 the lincolon one dont use the top rite bolt

 

In Canada we get 20% higher fuel mileage though

 

The only problem I had with using a lincoln 460 in a truck was that the mounts and plates wetre all wrong. Had to find them out of a late 70's 2wd pickup to make them work.