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Is It My Clutch or Cable

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Old 05-28-2007, 11:32 AM
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Is It My Clutch or Cable

Since I first picked up my '60 she has had a little squeek everytime I shift. No big deal untill yesterday when I couldn't get it out of reverse. She shifts fine and has only done it one other time since then.

So do you all think it just needs a adjustment or do you think I need to replace the clutch? Also is either jobs any difficult?
 
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Old 05-28-2007, 09:05 PM
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cable?
60 should be hydraulic.....
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Old 05-29-2007, 08:51 AM
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Then what's squeeking everytime I shift? Any suggestions??
 
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Is the squeaking coming from under the dash? Maybe the clutch pedal pivot bushing is dry, or the pushrod between the clutch pedal the clutch master cylinder is rubbing on something, or something under the dash has come loose and is rubbing against the pedal arm. Poke your head under there and work the pedal, see what you find

As far as hanging up in reverse.... ...were you parked on a hill? was there any kind of load on it? Maybe the clutch isn't fully disengaging.


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Old 05-29-2007, 09:30 AM
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The noise is coming from the clutch pedal itself. And as far as not disengaging it was as flat of land as can be and I was only hauling my 119lbs ***.
 
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LOL....I'll bet its the clutch pedal pivot or that something is rubbing up against the pedal. Nothing a bit of lube wouldn't fix.

Hopefully the hanging up in gear is just a fluke. If the clutch wasn't fully disengaging it could make it tough to get out of gear. Whisper in its ear a bit and give it some loving pats on the dash. Sometimes the poor old things just need a kind word now and again.

Did you ever manage to find a bed?
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Old 05-29-2007, 09:46 AM
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No luck, Bobby. But it never hurt to ask now did it.

And rub the dash? No, I kiss my girl's horn ring everytime we get on the 5 freeway to Disneyland. It's a 3 mile trip but at 50mph and a 4.11 rear end, she deserves so much more.
 
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Old 05-29-2007, 09:48 AM
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At the bottom of the steering column are two levers where the shift rods from the tranny attach. In those two levers are bushings and insulators (one each). When the bushings go bad, the truck will hang up in gear.


Under the dash, where the clutch and brake pedal hang from the bracket are FOUR bushings...two for the clutch, two for the brake. They are nylon, and after 47+ years, have had it. The bushings for the pedals are still available from Ford, the selector lever bushings from (prolly) NAPA...I'll give you the part numbers for both.


4-B7AZ-2471-A .. Clutch/Brake Pedal Shaft Bushings

1-B7AZ-7343-A .. Steering Column Selector Lever Bushings and Insulators. 1 kit = 4 pieces total (2 & 2). These fit ALL Ford cars and trucks 1957-60, and 1961/64 F100/250 4x4.
 

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I hear ya, the 9" Ford differential in my truck is from a 1960 F-100 and I have 4:11 gears also. My big Caddy engine is screaming at highway speeds.

Now get your skinny butt out there and lube up that pedal.

Good luck on finding a bed, personally, I like the wide beds better.
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You can't lube the remains of the 4 nylon bushings...see my post above. Spraying lube on them will only last just so long. The bushings are still available from Ford, so finding them is a snap.


Orange County (just over the hill from me)...Bobs and BOTP should have them...Prestige T-B or Larry's T-Bird would be a good place to look for the shift lever bushings..same as 1957/60 T-Bird..the brake/clutch pedal bushings are also the same as Bird.


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Bill,

I agree. Its been awhile since I've been under the dash of a "frigerator" truck, I forgot about the bushings.

I think she has a 4 on the floor and not a 3 on the tree so the shift linkage bushing part #'s aren't going to help much.

Thats cool that the bushings are still available. Its amazing how much difference it makes in the operating of the various linkages.

There ya go, another kiss on the horn ring and a new bushing or two and the old gal is back in business
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Those brake (and if you have a clutch) bushings B7AZ-2471-A are the same as Falcon 1960/70. Crawl under your dash and take a look see.

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Thanx all and yes she's a T-98 aka four on the floor.
 
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Is It my clutch?

I Just read the other posts. The advice on the nylon bushings is right on. It is easy to pull the shaft or the clutch pedal (can't remember which way the pedals are on the '60) and put in new bushings.

The T-98 is an old Borg-Warner Transmission with spur gears for Granny Low and Reverse. If it stuck in reverse, it could be a problem with the Reverse Idler, the cluster gear or reverse gear. The problems could be from grinding it in (either low or reverse) and leaving mushroomed gear ends, worn cluster bearings, inadequate transmission fluid, but highly doubtful that it is the clutch. You should be able to pull it out of reverse with the engine off and by taking the load off the transmission by slightly pushing the truck forward and backward while pulling on the shift lever. If one uses 1st gear a lot and "grinds" it in, the gears can "mushroom" enough to make gear engagement and release difficult. Too little transmission fluid can also cause the problem. You can easily check the tranny by removing the floorboard panel and taking off the top cover.

Parts for these trannys are hard to find and very expensive.

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Number Dummy,

Can I get the part numbers and discription for the T-98 portion that I need to check out or replace for my stuck clutch?

Or anyone else, please.

She's a 4 speed on the floor.
 
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