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Old 05-23-2007, 09:17 AM
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Ford, Chevy or Toyota

Well Iím ready to pull the pin on a new vehicle and I know the this is a Ford forum and all but am hoping to get some non-biased opinions anyway. Iíve narrowed my selection down to 3 trucks.

Ford Super Duty ĺ ton diesel

Chevy Silverado ĺ ton diesel

Toyota Tundra Ĺ ton

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Donít even know if I should be considering the last 1 but after test driving it - itís comparable. The most I tow the camper anymore is no more then a few hundred miles Ė itís 8500 lbs
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Depends on which one will be cheaper. The only real downfalls for each and I stress this is my opinion:

Ford - with the 6.4, seeing the latest fallout with Navistar I would be very hesitant to buy one. I wouldn't want to have to deal with any quality control issues and anything else that might pop up. And then there is the front facia......

Chevy - Never a fan on how they drove and the suspension feel. Like the Ford the looks just don't sell if for me. Duramax with the Allison is a proven performer though.

Toyota - Like the 5.7 with the 6 speed. Expect to take more of a hit at the pumps while towing. Fun truck to drive. Not sold on the looks either and wasn't impressed with the interior.

So I would say whichever brand gives you a better deal.

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I think it depends on what you are going to use the truck for bedsides towing a trailer and how many miles you will be driving annually. If your normal use is commuting or general driving an average amount, I would not get a diesel. Short trips are not good for a diesel and there are a lot of questions with the new diesel emission equipment required of 2008s and beyond. It has created problems for some and they anticipate problems in cold weather.

I'm not fond of the looks of any of the three but I really like the way the 5.7 Toyota runs and stops.
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I don't care what the manufacturers tow ratings are. 8,500 pounds is too much for ANY half ton pickup to handle.


While the steering wheel telescopes on the Tundra, there are NO power adjustable pedals available.


I have a picture I took at an auto show last year of a 2007 Tundra rolling chassis. It was mounted on a pedestal at a 45 degree angle...email me off FTE, and I'll pass the photo along. The Tundra frame is boxed to where the driveshaft attaches to the transmission. From there, are two sizes of C channel to the rear. The first C channel section runs to about where the driveshaft attaches to the rear end. From there, the C channel is smaller.
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So your concern with the Tundra is that the frame is not 'beefy' enough?
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So your concern with the Tundra is that the frame is not 'beefy' enough?
My concern is: ppl buy 1/2 ton trucks and believe the tow ratings. While the truck might be OK when new, after several years, an 8500 lb trailer will take its toll on brakes and transmissions.


Something else to consider. The Tundra has no history, at least this new model doesn't. The powertrain is brand new in 2007, so there's no reliability figures. How will things hold up after several years? Dunno.
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That's a good point. Here is a good article and some pics of the toyota.

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/15/d...oyotas-tundra/

I would think an 8500lb trailer would take a toll on any vehicle. Just not sure if I pull enough to buy another diesel. That whole frame thing bothers me though - thanks for bringing that to my attention. Toyota is almost to the point were their reputation preceds any vehcles they may sell in regards to reliibilty. Simliar to the powerstroke 7.3 which led to the 6.0 - we all knew how that worked out.
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The Ford Super Duty would be my choice, but I would get an '07 instead of the '08. Just mainly because most of the bugs have been worked out. As far as handling an 8500# trailer, I don't think it will EVER get tired.

The Chevy is also a new style but I have heard several people in my area complain some about reliability issues after pulling a load on a consistant basis.

The Toyota, I don't think that I would even consider. Mainly because of the load that you intend to pull and also because it is basically a new truck with no track record as far as reliability.

Just my 2 cents, Hope this helps.
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I say Ford but that's my biased opinion. One question to ask yourself before you buy, Am I an American? If your an American you don't by the Toyota! Your livelyhood may depend on it. Support American companies. Too many people go out and by foreign and fail to look at the long term results. Then start crying when those lose their Job! That's my $ .02
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I say Ford but that's my biased opinion. One question to ask yourself before you buy, Am I an American? If your an American you don't by the Toyota! Your livelyhood may depend on it. Support American companies. Too many people go out and by foreign and fail to look at the long term results. Then start crying when those lose their Job! That's my $ .02
As you can see, I made some valid points about the reliability of the new Tundra, and its odd frame configuration. But your "Buy American" comments are rather odd, considering: Tundra's are built in Indiana and San Antonio Texas by American workers being paid in American dollars.
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Not considering the profits go to a Japanese company. Ford, GM and Chrysler have more plants in the US than the foreign automakers.
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Can't tell me this aint this best looking outta the three..


dont' look bad but not that great either rather boring.. but the new GMC's about 10X's better


i don't even know why your considering this turd.. but to each his own i guess..


but good luck with your decsion and i wish you luck but what ever you choose. personally if it were me i'd get a V10 Superduty that way you'll have all the pulling power you need along with realiability/Durability. i know gas is climbing but if you look at the mileage figures for the v10 and Tundra they aren't to far off maybe 3-4 which to be quite honest isn't a whole lot when your talking trucks. the gas still gonna cost an arm and leg. and why pay 40 grand ( and that's exactly what you'll pay for a "nicely" equipped model) when you can get more truck for the same amount of money maybe even cheaper.. and with a proven powertrain and tow-command to boot
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Not considering the profits go to a Japanese company. Ford, GM and Chrysler have more plants in the US than the foreign automakers.

And that effects you how??? Why is Chrysler in your equation? Where did there profits "go"?


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