electric brake question
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electric brake question
Here's the scoop on this one guys. I tow a 34ft enclosed Haulmark trailer. The question I have is that my Prodigy shows there is a short with the brakes. I have repaired and sealed the areas that were connected with those blue 3M connectors, and thought that fixed the problem. The brakes on the trailer are working when I either hit the brakes in the truck and when I grab the manual lever. I also noticed that there is a thumping like noise that is rythmic coming from each of the wheels. It is more pronounced on the left front tire on the trailer. I am thinking that a wire has rubbed through inside the hub itself. Is it normal for the brakes to make a rythmic noise when plugged into the truck? I am leaning towards it is not normal for them to do that when parked.
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Older models of the Prodigy (serial numbers below 0130001) had a software problem that caused a false ground/short indication; don't know if that applies to you. The trailer is not moving when you get that thumping noise (it's not normal, moving or not)? Sounds like you may have to pull a hub/drum to see the condition of the brake system.
Steve
Steve
#3
Originally Posted by Steina
Older models of the Prodigy (serial numbers below 0130001) had a software problem that caused a false ground/short indication; don't know if that applies to you. The trailer is not moving when you get that thumping noise (it's not normal, moving or not)? Sounds like you may have to pull a hub/drum to see the condition of the brake system.
Steve
Steve
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Well, It is a Haulmark. Start by throwing it in a ditch. Take the wheels off and put them under a Quality Trailer.
Usually I don't bash stuff but I have a 20' Haulmark that when Brand new Leaked water at the man door. The dealership denied any leak but you could clearly see the water mark on the wall. Then after I started to modify it for Our needs I found bad welds throughout the whole trailer from the Ramp door to the A frame and coupler.
That being said makesure the shoes are good.and the Ground is the biggest concern.
Usually I don't bash stuff but I have a 20' Haulmark that when Brand new Leaked water at the man door. The dealership denied any leak but you could clearly see the water mark on the wall. Then after I started to modify it for Our needs I found bad welds throughout the whole trailer from the Ramp door to the A frame and coupler.
That being said makesure the shoes are good.and the Ground is the biggest concern.
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Did you actually check and see if the ground between the trailer and the truck is okay? You might get weird stuff like that if it's grounding through the hitch gear. When I test out trailer problems, I always try to do it with the hitch disconnected and only the plug hooked up to a test vehicle so I'll know right off the bat if the ground is crap. You shouldn't have more than a few ohms resistance between the truck frame and the trailer's frame.
Otherwise, yeah, you're going to have to pull the drums and take a peek inside to make sure you don't have a wire chafing in there. Also take a peek at the backing plates and make sure that they put something there to stop the wires from chafing on there.
The last place to look is in the trailer's plug, provided it's not a molded, one-piece cord. You might have a situation where there are only a few strands of wire being asked to carry all the current or worse a few strands might be shorting over to something else inside the plug.
Otherwise, yeah, you're going to have to pull the drums and take a peek inside to make sure you don't have a wire chafing in there. Also take a peek at the backing plates and make sure that they put something there to stop the wires from chafing on there.
The last place to look is in the trailer's plug, provided it's not a molded, one-piece cord. You might have a situation where there are only a few strands of wire being asked to carry all the current or worse a few strands might be shorting over to something else inside the plug.
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Originally Posted by MARTYSTOWRIG
Well, It is a Haulmark. Start by throwing it in a ditch. Take the wheels off and put them under a Quality Trailer.
Usually I don't bash stuff but I have a 20' Haulmark that when Brand new Leaked water at the man door. The dealership denied any leak but you could clearly see the water mark on the wall. Then after I started to modify it for Our needs I found bad welds throughout the whole trailer from the Ramp door to the A frame and coupler.
That being said makesure the shoes are good.and the Ground is the biggest concern.
Usually I don't bash stuff but I have a 20' Haulmark that when Brand new Leaked water at the man door. The dealership denied any leak but you could clearly see the water mark on the wall. Then after I started to modify it for Our needs I found bad welds throughout the whole trailer from the Ramp door to the A frame and coupler.
That being said makesure the shoes are good.and the Ground is the biggest concern.
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Jack it up, pull every one of them off, and visually inspect every inch of wire. Test the mechanical movements for any stiffness or binding, rust or missing parts.
Measure the resistance of the magnet coils with a digital ohmeter and compare the readings.
Test the magnets with a twelve volt source, such as a spare battery.
Test the harness from each brake to the hitch with a meter.
Check your grounds with a meter. Rust is not as big an issue as an expert qualified installer who thinks poly-based paint is a good rust preventer - that stuff will instantly seep into a connection (such as a ground) and effectively INSULATE IT ELECTRICALLY.
*Thanks to the diligence and dedication of some dim-bulb at "Georgie-Boy" I had to clean all of the tank sensor connections on a class "A" recently...
Something ought to show...
NOTE: Somewhere in a practical joke section here, I mentioned that if you really want to mess with someone who just did a thorough job of cleaning their battery terminals, all you have to do is spray them with clear polyurethane. INSTANT ZERO VOLTAGE!
- But nothing obvious shows, and the terminals themselves MUST be clean, so...
Measure the resistance of the magnet coils with a digital ohmeter and compare the readings.
Test the magnets with a twelve volt source, such as a spare battery.
Test the harness from each brake to the hitch with a meter.
Check your grounds with a meter. Rust is not as big an issue as an expert qualified installer who thinks poly-based paint is a good rust preventer - that stuff will instantly seep into a connection (such as a ground) and effectively INSULATE IT ELECTRICALLY.
*Thanks to the diligence and dedication of some dim-bulb at "Georgie-Boy" I had to clean all of the tank sensor connections on a class "A" recently...
Something ought to show...
NOTE: Somewhere in a practical joke section here, I mentioned that if you really want to mess with someone who just did a thorough job of cleaning their battery terminals, all you have to do is spray them with clear polyurethane. INSTANT ZERO VOLTAGE!
- But nothing obvious shows, and the terminals themselves MUST be clean, so...
Last edited by Greywolf; 05-21-2007 at 08:24 PM.
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