I believe by supercharged and turbocharged the engine was actually like a turbo'd 2 stroke detroit. People think the 2 stroke detroit was supercharged; It wasn't. It had a blower on it to force air into the cylinders. Try removing a blower from one and see if it'll start. It won't. When GM added the turbo it was for performance, and it added alot!
I imagine the aero engine was a small stroke and bore,large cylinder count,2 stroke w/blower, and turbo added. probably a high rpm fuel/oil burner that made great HP.
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Your right davE. That is how it works. As far as I know the detroit was the only engine to need a blower to run. That was how the industry found out about superchargers though, Some diesel nut decided to mount one on a gas engine and was really pleased with the outcome.
I don't know what the aero engine was like but i'm sure someone used the detroit design theory to build off of.
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Blowers have been on gassers long before diesels...
The first patent was back in the late 1800's (cant recall the year) by Mr Daimler (thats Mercedes Benz) on the concept of using a pump to push more air into the engine.
A guy in PA in 1910 or so then had a leather belt driving a fan (i.e. a centrifugal supercharger) on a race car - this idea was patented by Renault in 1902.
Mercedes unveiled thier first Positive Displacement supercharged vehicle in 1921. The early 20's racing was dominated by supercharged vehicles, Bugatti's, Fiat's, Buick's etc.
they better not put a 4.4 in the 250/350 unless they give an option for a bigger engine too....
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yeah the 4.4 will have more as much or more power and torque then the 7.3 ever did, but it won't have the aftermarket cause it'll pretty much be completely done up off the showroom floor... remeber that the most powerful and fastest powerstroke out there is i believe a '99 7.3... that engine has the most potential of any of the powerstrokes (except MAYBE the 6.4)... and the 4.4 won't have anywhere near the reliability as the 7.3... the smaller the engine the quicker it can spin, thus more friction, and yes i know that everything would weigh less which would help the friction but still... the 7.3 is one of the most reliable engines ever built (i would say up there with the 12v's and the mercedes diesel's)
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dual 5x36" angle cut MBRP stacks
34's at the moment 3" downpipe
tymar intake gauges
BTS valve body
stage II injectors
intercooler
twildman chip
VW put diesels in their small econo box cars like the rabbit
got great mileage, I think around 40 mpg
It was cute but still had to turn off the AC when pulling a hill.
Diesel runs this country and are here to stay.
I just hope Ford realizes that building the 4.4 and runnign it on the edge of it's operating perameters is going to hurt the little diesel, in the long run.
What I'd like to see is the engine tuned downed to about 280/350, from it's 330/480 high output specs. It'd last longer, get better fuel milage, and the aftermarket would have something to work with, for those peeps who demand to run on the ragged edge.
Then, knock off 800-1000 lbs of pork off the 5500 lb+ F150.
It'd prolly get 25+ MPG?
Peeps would be lined up around the block, for a fuel effcient F150.
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I'm doing my part to reduce food imports, control rising food costs and help feed the children, my trucks run on 100% petroleum diesel. What are you doing?
No one complained about the power of the 94-97 PSD. That was rated at 235hp and 450lb. With all the advances in diesel tech. the 4.4L could do that easy. And have longevity and decent mileage.
One thing to keep in mind is that the average guy out the there thinks that the ford truck diesels are great and don't know about the 7.3, 6.0, or the 6.4 they just know Ford PSDs have a good reputation. To them a diesel is a diesel.
Most users don't do that much research before they buy, they watch the commercial and their research is over.
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I had a 1984 Escort diesel. It had a 2.0L Mazda diesel with 5 speed manual tranny. It had more power than gasoline Escorts of that era, and got 53 MPG. Wish i still had that car now with the rising gas prices.
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