in europe there are many cars that have diesel engines in them, they buy them for the mpg, why can't we do the same.
Three letters: EPA. They have done us a lot of good in the past, look at how much cleaner everything is.
But they have thrown all practicality out the window with this latest round of regulations.
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You know for as much as everyone here on FTE is a self proclaimed expert in all things energy, I have a few simple questions to ask you.
How much of our current usage do we refine daily?
Since some of you are liberalnazis, how much crude do we import from other countries, and name them, and the percentage, then tell us why we are where we are and tie it to big oil?
How much of our own Natural gas usage do we produce daily?
How much capacity do we have logisticly for daily transprotation of crude, natural gas, and finished petroelum products in pipelines?
Who has the Largest refinery in the United States?
Who is the largest refiner in the U.S.?
Who operates the last "New, Grass roots Refinery" ever built in the U.S., and Who originally built it?
Someone please enlighten me with facts and no more hearsay form CNN.
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Dan, never said you were, but coinciedntally you have to answer all of them. You don't win a prize, what you win is called knowledge about why some things are the way they are in the energy segment. Here is a partial answer for number 2, and no the Standard Oil and the 7 sisters movies and data don't apply to common day allinances.
We import more oil from Canada, Mexico, and the North Sea (English and Netherlands) than we do from the Middle East, so liberalnazis please entertain me some more on why we are where we are, and for exactly for what reason.
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All right, I had the import answer wrong already... So not to side track what I think will be a facinating turn to this thread, but could I ask a question to add on?
Some folks think the oil companies control the price of oil and in turn the price of refined products. While they do have control of some amount of the latter, it's mostly a fair market comodity. What people don't appreciate is how much is spent to find the crude (like what it takes to invent and take to market a new drug, yet we all complain of drug costs...). here's the Q:
Anybody want to hazard a guess on how much is spent Each Year in trying to find new oil?
And back to you Ryan: isn't it a bit disconcerting that a major is going with a strategy of importing finished product, what with all the terrorism (pictures of a supertanker of diesel ablaze in my head)? Is this what the EPA has done to us? (one of the things)
back to my cocktail...
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You know for as much as everyone here on FTE is a self proclaimed expert in all things energy, I have a few simple questions to ask you.
How much of our current usage do we refine daily?
Depending on season around 80%.
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Since some of you are liberalnazis, how much crude do we import from other countries, and name them, and the percentage, then tell us why we are where we are and tie it to big oil?
16-17% From Canada, 15% from Mexico, 14% from Venuezuela, 12% from the North Sea England, 11% from the North Sea Netherlands, and 10% from the middle east. About 8% from Russia.
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How much of our own Natural gas usage do we produce daily?
86%, which means we import about 14%, which comes 12% from Canada, the other 2% comes in the form of LNG.
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How much capacity do we have logisticly for daily transprotation of crude, natural gas, and finished petroelum products in pipelines?
At most 80% on any given day.
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Who has the Largest refinery in the United States?
Exxon Baytown Refinery at 536,000 bbls per day.
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Who is the largest refiner in the U.S.?
I'll bet you though ExxonMobil, wrong, Valero Corporation.
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Who operates the last "New, Grass roots Refinery" ever built in the U.S., and Who originally built it?
ConocoPhillips Alliance Refinery. Originally built by Gulf Oil 1976. (Sun Oil 1986 Corpus don't count, it was not grass roots.)
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And back to you Ryan: isn't it a bit disconcerting that a major is going with a strategy of importing finished product, what with all the terrorism (pictures of a supertanker of diesel ablaze in my head)? Is this what the EPA has done to us? (one of the things)
back to my cocktail...
Well my feelings don't really count Dan, as what other choice do they have? They have already raised prices to all time highs, it seems to bother absolutly no one. To implicate only the EPA is kinda unfair, however that is where is starts, from there is branches out like a raging cancer.
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My name is Ryan and I work for BIG OIL, which allows me to comfortably afford.........................
Some folks think the oil companies control the price of oil and in turn the price of refined products. While they do have control of some amount of the latter, it's mostly a fair market comodity. What people don't appreciate is how much is spent to find the crude (like what it takes to invent and take to market a new drug, yet we all complain of drug costs...). here's the Q:
Anybody want to hazard a guess on how much is spent Each Year in trying to find new oil?
The oil companie have known where the majority of the worlds oil lies since the late 60's. The cost to comply and do business on a global market are entirely another story however.
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They have already raised prices to all time highs, it seems to bother absolutly no one.
Really, No One? It pisses me off to no end. I have spent so much on gas lately JUST going to and from work that I'm behind on many bills ($150 just for my truck to get to and from work, my wife spent about another $75, thats one week, ONE WEEK.). I just traded off my F250 today because I can't afford the payment and gas. So yeah it does bother plenty of people. Before unloading my truck I cut way back where I could. Stopped going out to eat, stopped all none essential trips. Only drove to work and home stopping at the grocery store on the way home.
Food prices are starting to climb. If prices at the pump and the grocery store keep climbing this country is headed for a big recession.
Here are my Short term solutions, maybe some of the experts can chime in on them. The government needs to suspend the fuel taxes and give the oil companies incentives to bring down prices. Bush needs to talk with Putin about opening the tap in Russia to flood the market again and help bring down prices, and maybe release some of the strategic reserve. That is about the only short term solutions I can think of that would have immediate effects. Maybe lower the speed limit to 55 or 60 would help as well.
My midterm solution. We need to go to a one blend fuel system. All the so called green states have adopted the unleaded that California uses, so why not everyone use the same thing. This will not help prices now, but will in the future. Especially when a refinery that supplies a certain state or region goes down.
Long term solutions. The government needs to pass legislation to allow drilling in ANWAR, and open up off shore in the Gulf coast and California. Maybe tax breaks for the oil companies to research alternative fuels. Tax breaks for auto makers to do more research in new technology. Relax some of the EPA standards if it benefits overall MPG. From what I've been reading the new 6.4L could really benefit from the EPA backing off and ditching the DPF.
Off the subject kind off. But what ever happened to the Hydrolic launch assist that was on the Tonka concept that came out a few years back? Stuff like that, that can increase MPG needs to be done.
#1 reason, fuel economy. If they do it right, it should be knocking on 30mpg.
#2 reason, longevity. It would something to replace the 300 I-6 for ppl that want a 500k mile F-150
why is everyone talking about fuel prices?? if you compare the average wage of someone from the mid-70's to the average wage of someone today, and then compare gas prices, back in the 70's people used more of a percent of their money for fuel than people today... the only reason people made a big deal of it back then was that there was no fuel...
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why is everyone talking about fuel prices?? if you compare the average wage of someone from the mid-70's to the average wage of someone today, and then compare gas prices, back in the 70's people used more of a percent of their money for fuel than people today... the only reason people made a big deal of it back then was that there was no fuel...
I don't know either way, but are you saying the average salary/income has gone up over 350% since the 70's????
I can vouch for myself concerning the 80's.........I actually made more money than today......and fuel is 3X's as much now.
And I can honestly say fuel prices are changing my lifestyle drastically....I cannot spend $300+ for fuel for a day on the lake any longer. The Sea Doos are marginally cheaper but still come close to $200 for a day including the truck.
It's acually very close to fly 2 people to LA/Burbank from Vegas than to take the V10.
In fact, fuel prices LAST year were affecting me bad enough to trade the Marauder for a TDI.
