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Old 03-27-2007, 11:03 AM
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Ford developing new diesel engine, quickly

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I wonder why this wasn't done sooner. 'Ol Henry never would have done it this way. Ford has had over 20 years to scheiss or get off the pot inre to developing a quality diesel.
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Quickly engineering a new diesel engine for the Super-duties? I'm not an engineer but how quickly can one design a diesel motor? And it be dependable?

I can see the nice fat rebates Chevy and Dodge are going to come out with now to attract potential Super-Duty consumers.

If I'm going to be buying a 50-60K rig, I don't want to have to wait to see if it is going to be dependable.
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I wonder why this wasn't done sooner. 'Ol Henry never would have done it this way. Ford has had over 20 years to scheiss or get off the pot inre to developing a quality diesel.
I agree, dropping the ball doesn't even fit here. They never had the ball to begin with......
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Quickly engineering a new diesel engine for the Super-duties? I'm not an engineer but how quickly can one design a diesel motor? And it be dependable?...
Be it from the rumor mill or not, but Ford has had plans to release their own diesel engine for sometime. Theyve had a contract with International/Navistar until (i want to say 2011).. but this may just allow them to get out of it. At the same time, accelerate the production of their own engine.

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong here...
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Quickly engineering a new diesel engine for the Super-duties? I'm not an engineer but how quickly can one design a diesel motor? And it be dependable?
Not only will this take time, but there's the bug-a-boo about infringing on existing patents. Something you can bet your bottom dollar that Navistar will closely watch.


Ford may have plans to release a new diesel, but what are the plans? Do they have one on the drawing board? Or is it a pipe dream? IMO, Ford is locking the barn door after the horse is gone. After the 6.0 fiasco, they shoulda started work immediatly. If they had done something...anything, the engine would be close to production right now. Instead of spending 6 billion dollars on Jaguar, Ford should concentrate and spend money for R&D on what sells. The idiots have taken over the asylum!


GM is developing a new DOHC V8...they expect the engine to be ready in 2011. 4 years hence, and it's a gasser.
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That "bold moves" slogan has more irony added to it with every move Ford seems to make these days. Beit trying to keep a sinking ship afloat or with shooting themselves in the foot on the development of possibly one of the best products they have put out in a long time.
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down. So they will come back with something. Just like the 6 million dollar man.
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Maybe Ford will give up the V8 thing, you cannot get a reliable V8 diesel to make that much power for 300,000 miles. It will beat itself to death.

Six in a row makes 'em go!

Whatever they do, they should definitely add this feature:

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Be it from the rumor mill or not, but Ford has had plans to release their own diesel engine for sometime. Theyve had a contract with International/Navistar until (i want to say 2011).. but this may just allow them to get out of it. At the same time, accelerate the production of their own engine.

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong here...

cgl. Ford has a contract with IH/Navistar until 2012.
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Maybe Ford will give up the V8 thing, you cannot get a reliable V8 diesel to make that much power for 300,000 miles. It will beat itself to death.

Six in a row makes 'em go!

Whatever they do, they should definitely add this feature:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=321LwkM7i90

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SMIGGS, I honestly thought you were smarter then that.
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Ford has the CGI lion series from LR 3.6 and 4.4 v8s.. I'm not sure how far it can be scaled up, but its going to have to be between 6-7 liters for use in the superduty as the big boy. I'm sure the 4.4 will make its way in there as the entry level diesel - high mpg option. We'll see what happens. New management is stepping up and saying enough is enough from navistar.

This isn't going to be until '09 or '10 anyway. I'd like to see a v10 or v12 based off that 4.4.. now that would be cool.
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SMIGGS, I honestly thought you were smarter then that.
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Um.... Remember that it's not the ENGINE that's the problem...

Just like every OTHER company that sells diesel engines in the US, they're having to jump backwards through hoops trying to deal with and fix problems in OTHER COMPANIES hardware. That's been rammed down their throats by the EPA.

And some vague itch tells me that this whole "flamethrower" episode MIGHT have been staged; or at least, the vehicle operated in such a manner as to encourage said behavior. Judging from how many folks around here saying they actually WANT that feature (in jest or otherwise), it's not too far a stretch to imagine this...

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