Thought Nissan was going to rebadge the Ram as their own, like Sterling does?
No, Dodge is going to assemble Nissans own design truck for them in Mexico.
And Nissan is all cozied up with Cummins for some diesel engines.
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2004 E-450 6.0 139,000 miles
7,500 mile, 15 quart oil changes, 5W-40 Rotella.
UOAs consist of checking for metal on drain plug magnet. All stock, no mods. Dyed fuel with no additives. Never been reflashed.
Total parts replaced;
one EGR valve.
After having a rather problematic 6.0 and getting it working correctly with everything needed (headstuds, EGR block off, custom tunes) I wouldnt hesitate to get a 6.4 and get rid of all the DPF, add a tuner, and make it get the fuel mileage its capable of.
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After having a rather problematic 6.0 and getting it working correctly with everything needed (headstuds, EGR block off, custom tunes) I wouldnt hesitate to get a 6.4 and get rid of all the DPF, add a tuner, and make it get the fuel mileage its capable of.
I have a question for you laredo. I understand wanting to do mods but when you do one that is going to void the warranty what is it that you are going to do when something happens to the motor and you have to pay for it youself?? It just seems strange that we ( yes I want to do it also ) will do this and void the warranty on an unproven motor. I just hope nobody junks a motor then has to pay for another one out of pocket.
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I have a question for you laredo. I understand wanting to do mods but when you do one that is going to void the warranty what is it that you are going to do when something happens to the motor and you have to pay for it youself?? It just seems strange that we ( yes I want to do it also ) will do this and void the warranty on an unproven motor. I just hope nobody junks a motor then has to pay for another one out of pocket.
sometimes that is the price you have to pay though, shouldn't be but it is.
i personally would not want a new truck i would take a 7.3 powerstroke over a 6.0,6.4. now all the new diesel are running low rpms to get fuel milage if you take an old 6.9 or 7.3 and lower the rpms to about 1,500-2,000 in final drive put a turbo on it you would get better fuel milage then spending $50,000 on a new diesel. if you converted it to wvo and mixed it yourself you would be amazed. Just my 2 cents
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i personally would not want a new truck i would take a 7.3 powerstroke over a 6.0,6.4. now all the new diesel are running low rpms to get fuel milage if you take an old 6.9 or 7.3 and lower the rpms to about 1,500-2,000 in final drive put a turbo on it you would get better fuel milage then spending $50,000 on a new diesel. if you converted it to wvo and mixed it yourself you would be amazed. Just my 2 cents
I am starting to agree that buying a new diesel may not be the way to go. I still would buy the 06 07 6.0 at least it does not have the crappy exhaust that the 6.4 has.
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No matter what you buy, you will have to make changes to get your money's worth out of it. My stock 1986 diesel got 12 MPG at best when I bought it, now I can get 16 MPG while towing, with more power, and at higher speeds. Not sure what it gets empty right now.
If there is a way to get rid of the DPF, than that might be the way to go, but I personally would go for the 7.3L if I was considering a powerstroke. Way more bang for your buck, and plenty of room to grow. As I said before, a new car/truck warranty is not worth what it used to be, theres just too many things that can go wrong with newer more "advanced" vehicles.
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1986 F150 Ex cab Lariat rollercam 5.0L on LPG AOD trans 3.55 gears 390 000Ks
No where near as much bang for your buck with the 7.3, the 6.4 is putting out numbers that even the 7.3 couldn't dream of doing and it is surrounded by twice the truck, the refinements and improvements made to the trucks themselves over the years are worth the extra cost of the fuel in m opinion.
No where near as much bang for your buck with the 7.3, the 6.4 is putting out numbers that even the 7.3 couldn't dream of doing and it is surrounded by twice the truck, the refinements and improvements made to the trucks themselves over the years are worth the extra cost of the fuel in m opinion.
I'll let some 7.3L owners/tuners chime in on that one.......(I have a feeling they may not all agree with you)
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1986 F250HD Ex cab Fresh built up 6.9L diesel, Lariat AC leather seats power everything w/full cluster, sterling rear 3.08LS gears, E4OD trans, ram intake ATS 088 turbo
1986 F150 Ex cab Lariat rollercam 5.0L on LPG AOD trans 3.55 gears 390 000Ks
To my understanding the 6.7 is being tested in trucks now under the skins of the 08's. Only time will tell.
Man now I am going to have to check out every 6.4 I see and listen for a different sound.... (not likely to have testers out here but ) Thanks alot....
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No where near as much bang for your buck with the 7.3, the 6.4 is putting out numbers that even the 7.3 couldn't dream of doing and it is surrounded by twice the truck, the refinements and improvements made to the trucks themselves over the years are worth the extra cost of the fuel in m opinion.
There is a 7.3l puller called double overtime puttin out like 1800hp (or some where near that). Look the name up on youtube it has some videos. As far as the money put into it have no clue.
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04 F150 4.6l Gryphon Powered 2wd reg cab XL 3:55 LS SISO Flowmaster S40 NCD Customs 2.5" Leveling Kit Burner High Power Fog Lights 285/70/17 BFG A/T KO's
I have a question for you laredo. I understand wanting to do mods but when you do one that is going to void the warranty what is it that you are going to do when something happens to the motor and you have to pay for it youself?? It just seems strange that we ( yes I want to do it also ) will do this and void the warranty on an unproven motor. I just hope nobody junks a motor then has to pay for another one out of pocket.
My 6.0 puked some from quite new but it was long before head gasket changing was in fashion (so to speak). I couldnt get FORD to fix it but rather they took my old 6.o tune that had more power, got better fuel mileage, had a tow/haul that worked, and had the quiet idle with pilot injection without hesitation. I added a tuner and the bolts stretched enough to have the repair done on warranty without hesitation. Who screwed who through all of this? Am I bad for doing it? The last thread where I viewed my thoughts on this was locked.
Bookem, here is what you wrote in another 6.7 thread - you will have to be more consistent my friend - you question why I would do mods, then you say If more power is required, go to the aftermarket
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After reading all the stuff on what people think about the price of diesel and all the new emissions crap on these motors I wonder if Ford will get wise and make this motor get decent MPG's?? They can at least make it better than the 6.4 can't they?? Only time will tell. Those people who want huge amounts of HP and TRQ can go buy it in the aftermarket
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I am starting to agree that buying a new diesel may not be the way to go. I still would buy the 06 07 6.0 at least it does not have the crappy exhaust that the 6.4 has.
I will take crappy exhaust and common rail injection over a good exhaust and the HEUI setup.
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There is a 7.3l puller called double overtime puttin out like 1800hp (or some where near that). Look the name up on youtube it has some videos. As far as the money put into it have no clue.
That truck was converted to a commonrail injection setup off of an international I believe. Fully custom and I read an article that didn't give an exact number but it was over $100k.
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DashDAQ - soon to be Phalanx Monitor
ARP headstuds
Silverline Turboback
SCT X3...Spartan and Innovative tunes
DFuser Coolant Filter
Ford has it on the 6.4. This is how the duramaxes and cummins make so much power and injectors are so much cheaper. Unfortunately they have been using common rail for a long time.
As for converting one. I hope you are a millionaire and really like the 7.3 but 100k is more than I'm going to spend on a 7 year old truck.
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Silverline Turboback
SCT X3...Spartan and Innovative tunes
DFuser Coolant Filter
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