Looking for some opinions and or experiences with the following tires
First off, thanks in advance for any responses. My truck is an 05 expy 5.4 2wd. The only off roading it sees are some rutted up gravel & dirt roads during pheasant season. After my first winter with snow in many ages, the stock Continentals finally proved just how pathetic they are, so I'm in the market for new tires. I have pretty much narrowed it down to 3:
Now, I live in MN and this is apparently Bridgestone country so, every tire place here except Discount (and they aren't a direct dealer) pushes Bridgestone. I've heard excellent things about these tires, but I've never had Bridgestones on anything.
Michelin MTX--Had these on a 2000 Expy and it was a panic ride in the wet. Something about that truck and tire combo that just didn't work. In addition, most tire places tell me the Michelin's are very good tires, but haven't changed their technology in about 15 years. I have no clue if this is true.
Yokohama. Read some good reviews, 1 Discount tire near me recommended them over the Michelins. I just dont' know much about them except they are about $40/tire cheaper.
Overall, the warranties and mileage expectancies are about the same. So, with that said, I can read everything on the net, but I would like some real-world experience and 99 out of 100 times, the members of this board tell it pretty straight. Any insight?
I tried at least a couple of these tires on my 2000 Expedition.
Mine had original Firestones replaced by recall with Goodyear RTS which were quiet but very poor performers overall.
I replaced them with the Yokohama GEO II's. They could not balance them properly and the wheel shook on the highway. I finally got them to replace them, with the 265 BFG T/O All-terrains I should have got in the first place. I was driving on dort roads on family property and got stuck in the rain on a dirt hill once with the Goodyears. The BFG's are the BEST all-terrain tire, hands down, don't listen to any other mumbo jumbo. They have been the best sellers for more than a decade for good reason. They are awesome in the snow and NEVER let me down in any condition. They have long trear life, mine were still good after 35k miles and I had a set on a Bronco once for 40k and they were good. Wither that said, All Terrain tires generally make the ride firmer (mine were LT load C sidewall rather than P-rated) and they are definitely louder on the road.
Once I stopped driving dirt roads so much, they were kind of bothersome being loud and a little rough with high miles on them. I switched back to Michelin tires and LOVE them. They are quiet and great on wet or snow covered roads. Offroad they are OK but not near the BFG tires. I don't need that now though. They are quiet, long lasting, smooth, perfect in my opinion. Michelins cost more for a reason. Yokohamas cost less for a reason. They're not cheap just to be nice to you.
So, decide what your needs are first. The tires you are looking at are all different beasts. I have read the same good reviews about the REVO's that you are talking about. I think they are somewhere between the offroad performance of the BFG and the on-road smoothness of the Michelins.
My 07 Expy Limited came with Pirellis. They look sweet, and on dry roads they are great. We'll see...
I have have the Bridgestone Dueler AT Revos on 2 vehicles, a 2003 Expedition and on 05 F-250. Very pleased with the tire. Excellent road feel, great handling in all conditions. We had more snow and ice in central Illinois this winter than we have had in years, yet I was able to go anywhere I needed to go. I will definitely buy these tires again!
For those of you who have had the REVOs on Expeditions, did you use a P-rated(passenger) tire like the originals, or did you increase to an LT -rated truck tire? From my experience, every time I have done this to help with carrying heavy loads, I have given up some ride quality due to the stiffer sidewall.
I had the P rated on my 03 Expy and the LTs on my 05 250. I think the Ps would handle pretty much anything the Expy would pull. Didn't notice any difference in ride quality between the original Conti's and the Revos. If anything, the Revo's were a little better.
Dueler AT Revo, great tires. Put a set on my 03 Chevy Z-71 and they lasted 45k+ miles, so replaced them with the same before trading in. Truck saw moderate offroad use (North Carolina red clay fields, South Dakota pheasant fields, West Texas hill country) plus my normal drive to work (30 miles each way, mostly highway). Relatively low highway noise compared to Michelin M/S or AT. No real experience with Yokohama tires, other than the low pros on a Lexus. I will say that the Dueler Revo is one of the better/best medium duty tires I have purchased. I have the Continentals on the new Expedition, not a big fan but no desire to spend $700 on new tires just yet.
I had the P's (revos) on my 97 Expy and in the huge blizzard of 03 here in Colorado those things just kept on pulling through.
I absolutely hate Yokohama tires with a vengeance. I have a set (granted not suv tires) on my BMW 540 sport and they are the biggest piece of you know what I have ever put on a car. Great in light rain and dry but anything else.
I'd give a thumbs down to the Yoko Geolandars. I had a set of A/T II's on my '01 F-150 4x4, and they only lasted 35,000 miles. Seems to have great dry traction at the cost of soft rubber compound. They also wore real funny on the edges of the lugs - every other one was worn slightly lower. Made for a whine at high speed and a rumble at low speed. They were better than the OEM General rim protectors, but not by much.
Second the opinion on the BFG T/O all terrain K-O's. Fantastic tire, and my F-150 is now shod with them. I had a set last well over 100,000 miles on a '92 Explorer, so I know they will last on an SUV too. Good in the snow, and not too loud on the hwy.
I had the Revos and while they did provide good traction for my F250 once they were about 1/2 wore they became very loud and I finally just changed them out with a set the of Dunlop Radial Rover RVXTs. Same traction but much quieter even towards the end of the tire life. They were also a smoother ride.
I hope they com eout with some 18" sizes soon. IF they don't I'll go with the Goodyear Fortera TripleTred for my EB EL 4x4.